Comment on Apple A17 Pro SoC Within Reach of Intel i9-13900K in Single-Core Performance

Ocelot@lemmies.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• ramble81@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Others have come out but they never grab a foothold because you literally have to recompile everything. Some companies have even included their own compilers and optimizers but then you run into other packages and binaries that don’t work on anything but x86. One company literally wanted to give us a new 256-core system they were prototyping for a large scale web farm, but we ran into too many package issues that we couldn’t convert over to their architecture. And that was with Linux.

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  • nehal3m@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Apple succeeded at switching over to ARM though, they’re thriving.

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    • wax@lemmy.wtf ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They have more direct control over their software ecosystem though

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      • nehal3m@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Absolutely, an iron fist. But that worked out well in this case.

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    • z500@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They’ve already switched architectures twice before, so they’ve got some experience at it.

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    • Ocelot@lemmies.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Apple definitely has a way of doing what is right sometimes, and forcing the industry’s hand to move forward.

      … Sometimes. Sometimes this definitely backfires, but not this time.

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  • geosoco@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yup. Some like DEC even offered on-the-fly binary recompilation from x86 to Alpha in windows, back when windows NT was available on 4 or 5 different processors (PowerPC, MIPS, Alpha, x86, and I think eventually Intel's original x86 64-bit replacement.

    x86 has evolved so much in the last 40 years that it's still able to keep a foothold for PCs.

    I'm curious what's about to happen moving forward as they continue to shrink transistor sizes.

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• debounced@kbin.run ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  hell, even intel tried to get away from x86 with itanium but failed miserably... and they screwed themselves again by recently dumping the RISC-V pathfinding a year after initiation. i worry about the future of Arc, but maybe they'll pull their head out of their ass on that one.

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  • z500@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Funny thing is the 8086 was only supposed to be a stopgap. Their next big thing ended up being a miserable flop, but the 8086 took off and the rest is history.

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  • HidingCat@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well, it's one of those if it ain't broke, don't fix it things. Like QWERTY keyboard layouts.

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    • ozymandias117@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The alternatives kind of need to support ACPI, or some similar standard

      DeviceTree works for embedded devices, but it’s not great for end users who are trying to get interoperability between suppliers

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• Bye@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Should just throw an x86 coprocessor slot on the motherboard, that way we can all embrace RISC-V (or arm or whatever the fuck)

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