Comment on Google's shocking developer decree struggles to justify the urgent threat to F-Droid

cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The mobile options for Linux are years out from being ready and the hardware vendors are locking them out as fast as possible.

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  • tomenzgg@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There’s generally been positive reviews for FuriLab’s FLX1 model:

    • clehaxze.tw/…/07-20-flx1-actually-usable-linux-ph…
    • news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41839326
    • www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/…/furilabs_flx1/
    • www.reddit.com/r/…/flx1_linux_phone_display_out/
    • www.theregister.com/2025/02/03/furiphone_flx1/

    Their new one, the FLX1s has 2GiB more RAM (for 8GiB, in total). I’ve heard battery gets 2 days without charge even with Android emulation.

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    • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s still Android kernel and drivers :/ but it is private. For Linux you’d need postmarket or one of their derivatives and they are fighting to get cameras and power under control.

      prob the best we have at the moment.

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      • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        and what’s the problem with android other than google’s fuckery?

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    • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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      • tomenzgg@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Sure; but we won’t close that gap immediately. Intermediate progress can be helpful for further progress.

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  • cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So it would seem.

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• pHr34kY@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The stepping-stone would be de-googled Android like LineageOS or GrapheneOS. I think Linux is the end-game though.

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• Photuris@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ubuntu Touch works well on my fairphone.

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    • Chee_Koala@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Very cool! I’m thinking of going for ubuntu touch, seeing as Android has proven that it’s no longer worth the time investment. Also, Fairphone 5 is my next phone if the current one dies, so it works out.

      Could you share what do you really like about it? And what is your biggest gripe or letdown with it? Thanks!

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      • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s using Hallium, which is still using Android kernel and drivers, hopefully they can keep that up while vendors are getting increasingly antagonistic.

        It is private.

        If you want to run some android apps you can use waydroid, but it torches the battery.

        If you want to run arm linux apps, you need to dork around with containers as the root os is RO.

        I’m sitting on the fence of shelling out for a decen FP

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  • cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Beats me! I’m in the process of moving banking and payment off my phone in preparation for a Linux one. These things will very likely not work on non-proprietary devices.

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    • FutileRecipe@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      These things will very likely not work on non-proprietary devices.

      Depends on your bank. Most work on alternate OS (like GrapheneOS), and of course some don’t. privsec.dev/…/banking-applications-compatibility-…

      If an app (especially bank) doesn’t work, I forward them this and try to ELI5 that their current method is flawed and less secure: grapheneos.org/…/attestation-compatibility-guide

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      • progandy@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Which is fine and all, but then you still have to run a release built and signed by the grapheneos devs.

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    • plyth@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Reverse the question:

      Which bank can be used with a linux phone?

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    • Prathas@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m in the process of moving banking and payment off my phone

      Go on… How are you doing so?

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      • cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Going for plastic when paying instead of using a digital wallet, using the banks’ websites for transactions instead of the app.

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• kepix@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  wish it would have support

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