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Comment on Those who are hosting on bare metal: What is stopping you from using Containers or VM's? What are you self hosting?

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renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

Do you host on more than one machine? Containerization / virtualization begins to shine most brightly when you need to scale / migrate across multiple servers. If you’re only running one server, I definitely see how bare metal is more straight-forward.

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zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
This is a big part of why I don’t use VMs or containers at home. All of those abstractions only start showing their worth once you scale them out.

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- renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Hm, I don’t know about that either. While scale is their primary purpose, another core tenant of containerization is reproducibility. For example
  
  If you are developing any sort of software, containers are a great way to ensure that the environment of your builds remains consistent.
  
  If you are frequently rebuilding a server/application for any reason, containers provide a good way to ensure everything is configured exactly as it was before, and when used with Git, changes are easy to track. There are also other tools that excel at this (like Ansible).
  
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  - zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    That to me still feels like a variety of “scale”. All of these tools (Ansible is a great example) are of dubious benefit when your scale of systems is small. If you only have a single dev machine or server, having an infrastructure-as-code system or containerized abstraction layer, just feels to me like unnecessary added mental overhead. If this post had been in a community about FOSS development or general programming, I’d feel differently as all of these things can be of great use there. Maybe my idea of selfhosting just isn’t as grandiose as some of the people in here. If you have a room full of server racks in your house, that’s a whole other ballgame.
    
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30p87@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
One main server, with backup servers being very easy to get up and running, either by full-restoring the backup, or installing and restoring specific services. As everything’s backed up to a Hetzner Storage Box, I can always restore it (if I have my USB sticks with the keyfiles).

I don’t really see the need for multiple running hosts, apart from:

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Workstation which has a 1070 in it, if I need a GPU for something. My 1U server only has space for a low profile and one slot GPU/HPC processor, and one of those would cost way more than its value over my old 1070 would be.
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