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ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

I think the biggest one that was drilled into us constantly, especially about WW2 and Nazis was

“ Those Who Cannot Remember the Past Are Condemned To Repeat It”

This was a load of shit as evidenced by what is going on in the USA right now and other parts of the world. The real lesson should have been to push back the second a nazi takes an inch as they will take more if you play the nice and tolerate. Not everyone is well intentioned.

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lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The quote isn’t

those who remember the past won’t repeat it

Thinking it does is falling for the ol’ Oracle of Delphi phenomenon of misreading the claim.

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- ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Not sure it is about remembering as much as how one’s brain works as some are more emotional than intellectual.
  
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thejoker954@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
That quote is being proven true right now though?

People don’t really remember what happened with the nazis. Most of the people who actually lived that past are dead now.

And the vast mojority of people lack enough empathy/understanding to be able to ‘walk a mile in their shoes’ as it were and extrapolate the horrors from the most readily available histories.

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AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I had this really awesome kind of angry and nihilistic history teacher in H.S. who offered an elective course that studied the repeated patterns through history leading up to genocide. It covered Armenia, Rwanda, and the Holocaust.

I don’t know if it was just the fact that we looked at the repeated overlaps between human behavior vs just memorizing historical events, but if more people took a course like Crimes against Humanity maybe they would be able to spot the clear patterns of human behavior that somehow happen over and over again.

push back the second a nazi takes an inch as they will take more if you play the nice and tolerate. Not everyone is well intentioned.

Yep, the Holocaust didn’t happen overnight. It’s always starts as a slow slide into genocide, but once it picks up steam it turns into an avalanche. It drives me nuts that people keep pretending we should be entertaining any of this as just normal politics. The reaching across the aisle bullshit was insane a year ago (and really 10 years ago), but at this point it is literally enabling this shit to happen. You’re a collaborator.

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