Comment on Fooling a self-driving car with mirrors on traffic cones

Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  “We show that by exploiting the physics of specular reflection, an adversary can inject phantom obstacles or erase real ones using only inexpensive mirrors,” the researchers wrote in a paper submitted to the journal Computers & Security.

  “Experiments on a full AV platform, with commercial-grade LIDAR and the Autoware stack, demonstrate that these are practical threats capable of triggering critical safety failures, such as abrupt emergency braking and failure to yield.”

  I’d be fooled, too, at first - and suspicious (who’s fucking around with mirrors on the road?) - but I’d probably figure it out after a second.

  My main concern is people could use these kinds of exploits to “jailbreak” robo-cars (or whatever we’re calling them) to behave in dangerous ways in real traffic.

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  • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oh okay, I have not factored in the idiots 😒

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    • Blackfeathr@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      We must, unfortunately, factor in the idiots. They’re quite pervasive.

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      • okwhateverdude@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They’re quite pervasive.

        🫲 Gestures broadly around at everything 🫴

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      • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’d need a new driving-license. With stricter checks. Not if applicants could memorize basic stuff but their emotional and intellectual maturity.

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  • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah there’s always someone. Now that the door is open for these stunts we’ll see them in real life, including ones that full humans. It is critical to figure these out before we rely on the technology, because people are assholes.

    I’ve been saying for years that traffic will get much worse when we get to mostly self-driving cars. Many of the holdouts will decide they can act dangerously on the road because the self driving cars will get out of their way.

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• LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Almost everything can be applied to anything when you scale up.

  “Your surge protector doesn’t even protect against a 500J surge”

  Yeah but yours doesn’t protect against a million joule one. Checkmate."

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  • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lol true too.

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