Comment on How Chrono Trigger Taught Me The Word ‘Epoch’
Ashtear@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
クロトリ getting the literal “Blackbird” treatment is a good example of how impossible direct localization is. It’s why I appreciate–and support–injecting similar vibes elsewhere in scripts that may not have literal connections to the original Japanese. I think Woolsey got there in this particular case with Flea, Slash, and Ozzie. Not so much with the gurus.
I think, though, the answer to “why did we end up with this Woolsey-ism?” is no more complicated than him sitting bleary-eyed with a spreadsheet at 2am because of insanely short deadlines, and getting zero feedback. I’ve always figured that’s how we ended up with phoenix down.
simsalabim@lemmy.world 2 days ago
What’s a better translation for Phoenix Down? And what’s a direct translation of the original name?
k0e3@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
It’s フェニックスの尾. Technically, it’s the “tail” of a phoenix, but it’s clearly depicted as the “tail feather”.
Ashtear@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Yeah, I suspect when it first appeared it was a short form of 尾羽. I’m not sure the exact kana limits they had, but I could see the extra two in おばね being too far.
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
A more direct translation would be along the lines of “Phoenix’s Tail”, but even that is misleading because it’s referring to the tail feathers. The Japanese version didn’t specify the individual tail feathers, the same way English wouldn’t designate the individual hairs on a cat’s tail. A more accurate localization may be something like “Phoenix Flight Feather”, but that’s a bit of a mouthful (and would take up a lot of room in your game menus).
CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Just Phoenix Feather would be fine. Better than Down.
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Phoenix Quill? Down feathers are the small, soft feathers close to a bird’s body. The long flight feathers are called quills.
krunklom@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
I was in my 30s when I realized phoenix down was, like, the down feathers from a phoenix. Like goose down. And not “PHOENIX DOWN!”
simsalabim@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I see why that would be confusing 😂. The German translation has always been Phönixfeder, which translates to Phoenix Feather.
Nikls94@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Which results in a WTF moment when you start playing the games in English
wavebeam@lemmy.world 2 days ago
youtu.be/JS6CXgloFUg