Comment on Beware, another "wonderful" conservative instance to "free us" has appeared

• Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Nice dog whistle there.

  Police have a long history of using excessive force and being excessively punitive against anyone who looks different. Literally the first police force in the country were slave catchers and they never left those roots.

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  • 1141kizzie@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yeah, people here assumes everyone knows about their political problems. I am not from west. Have a open mind

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    • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Y’know what, reviewing your post history, I believe you. You happened to step on a landmine though with your above comment about criminals, because the general problem of overpolicing and excessive force is reinforced by a laws that help perpetuate it.

      For an extreme example, if you make it illegal to sleep under a bridge, any homeless person trying to get some rest in a public space that happens to provide a little bit of shelter is now a criminal. But do you think the police are going to hassle grampa who dozed off sitting at a park bench because it’s 3pm and he usually has had a nap by now? And when the newly deemed criminal gets upset about being arrested for just trying to get some shut eye that can be determined to be resisting arrest therefore the police can use more force. Maybe that triggers some PTSD and they start fighting back in which case the amount of force escelates.

      The law and the criminal justice system are unfortunately designed to perpetuate a cycle of criminalism. Punitive prisons and sentencing make it difficult for anyone who has been arrested to adjust to living in society again. Parole and probation (the supposed support structure provided to people as they leave the prison system) is structured to penalize folks who already have it rough for struggling to make ends meet, and can quickly land people back in prison for offenses as simple as having work schedule them during their mandated parole meetings and needing to choose between potentially losing their job and becoming homeless or potentially being arrested again. Or they might find that they can make an actual living wage working in a black market (drugs, vehicle chop shop, etc.) because having a record excludes them from better paying employment options that offer a better work-life balance. Or maybe they couldn’t afford the restitution payments required (fines that were part of their sentence and fees for participating in the justice system) they go back to prison and ultimately come out much later even less able to adjust and the cylce continues until they die in prison, die homeless living in a gutter or die a death related to whatever trade they can pick up with their criminal record (industrial accident, drug overdose, gang violence, take your pick)

      So yeah in short, some folks have a tight line to walk so that their existence isn’t criminalized

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      • 1141kizzie@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I see, over policing. Here police try to solve domestic(family) disputes without registering complains & overlook trivial offenses. And in local area, people usual approach respected locals & panchayat first. because it is common sense that justice system is unnecessarily expensive & takes a lot time to deliver justice.

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