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gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

They have created all these imaginary enemies attacking them on every front, and they think THEY are the ones living real life, and the rest of us side with their imaginary enemy.

I think that their ENEMY is actually poverty, i.e. many people struggle economically to make a living. This is due to the progress of time (automation leads to fewer jobs), but since time itself is invisible to many people, they try to find a material, outside enemy. And that’s why they blame immigration and queer people, because they appeared at the same time (in public, in the case of queer people) as the decline of living standards. So people see that and conflate correlation with causation, and blame these groups.

What’s important to me is whether people think about the situation and try to make good conclusions and proposals. What matters to me is whether MAGA actually tries to improve people’s living condition, instead of just mindlessly trying to hurt people. If they actually try to improve things, i can talk to them and find meaningful paths forward. If they’re just trying to hurt people, such a thing is impossible. So to me, it very much matters why they’re doing this. That’s what i’m researching, and also how to make meaningful plans that are in their interest that actually bring the country forward, instead of just creating more difficulties.

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BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
While I think that your first section makes a spectacularly excellent point that I had y considered before, your second section broke my brain.

Section one: Excellent point. As Trickle Down Economics spread, and life in America slowly declined as inflation/cost of living steadily outpaced incomes at an increasingly speed, the conservatives managed to blame the problems on liberals, minorities, and immigrants. I hadn’t looked at it that way, as an excuse why Trickle Down wasn’t fixing everything, but it is absolutely true.

Section 2: You are still trying to figure out if the MAGAs motivations are valid or not? Did you just become conscious a month ago? Because it has been apparent that MAGA is about nothing but money and control since they came on the scene a decade ago. Since then, they have become indelibly tied to treason, corruption, pedophilia, racism, misogyny, ignorance, stupidity, and virtuosic incompetence.

And you are still doing your research? Dude…

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- gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  Because it has been apparent that MAGA is about nothing but money and control since they came on the scene a decade ago. Since then, they have become indelibly tied to treason, corruption, pedophilia, racism, misogyny, ignorance, stupidity, and virtuosic incompetence. Bad Faith is their core value.
  
  the leadership yes, but the people voting for them? I’m not so sure.
  
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  - BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    If you support it with your words, your actions, and your vote, then you own it. MAGA followers are every bit as bad as the leaders.
    
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gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I know this is a lot of text all at once, but while i’m here, let me tell you that i think that it’s important that there’s a heavy investment in human spaceflight and especially in settling mars.

I’m not saying that for some delusional reasons of science fiction, but because of the very real and very heavy economic advantages that it has. A massive spaceflight program would create a lot of jobs (if you invest $1b in spaceflight, where does the money go? it goes towards companies that try to build the rockets and necessary machinery, and a large part of that money goes towards jobs and construction materials, so the money continues to circulate in the country.)

And jobs are one of the two very important things that people need to live: food and jobs. Let me illustrate this:

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As time progresses forward, we have more resources available (because our production systems work better, as they get improved all the time). but at the same time, a lot of production systems get automated and that reduces the number of jobs. Since people need jobs, new parts of the market need to be developed continuously.

What i’m saying is that if there’s a massive push towards spaceflight, somebody will have to build all of the necessary machinery, equipment, and such, and that would create a lot of jobs. It’s especially important for american people to have jobs, because americans are typically biased towards enterpreneurship and such, and that’s only possible when there’s business to be done. i think that’s a very important aspect of american society. also, martian human settlement would have the advantage that there’s real progress (new lands being explored) and that would also have some positive consequences.

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