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JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

It’s pretty clear no one read the linked article

This is the root problem. Upvoting and downvoting headlines on the basis of vibes. It adds zero value. It’s a waste of everyone’s time, not least the upvoters and (especially) downvoters themselves, who get nothing out of it but the tiniest of vacuous dopamine hits. It’s the original sin of social media.

My preferred solutions:

no voting at all without a registered click on the linked article
no commenting at all without including a verifiable quote from the linked article

Deep-seated problems call for radical solutions. Both of these are technically feasible.

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Skavau@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
no commenting at all without including a verifiable quote from the linked article

How is this feasible?
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- JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  On posting, crawl the link and cache its content. Compare with quote on the basis of some generous threshold of similarity.
  
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  - Pro@suppo.fi ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    My dude, my main account server got down while I am posting and commenting and you want them to even invest more in crawlers.
    
    Think simpler, the fediverse is suffering from lack of resources.
    
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    Blaze@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    It’s back up
    
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    JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Sure. But in theory, with (slightly) better resources, this would be my solution.
    
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    Blaze@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I like Programming.dev, but they aren’t known for 100% uptime
    
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  - Skavau@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    If viable either financially or logistically, this is just overly excessive and pushes people away from the Fediverse.
    
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    JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Sure. But social media is becoming a nightmare. It’s literally destroying democracy. As things stand, I’m not even convinced the fediversal version is an improvement. And if it’s not, then personally I don’t care how many people are pushed away. In as far as technical fixes are possible to the myriad problems of social media, I believe these might be a couple of them. That’s all I’m saying.
    
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rimu@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
So every comment would have a quote? lol

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