Comment on Samsung Embeds Israeli Surveillance App on Phones Across MENA

• N0t_5ure@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  yes, and you have to get one that is from google and isn’t from a carrier so you can unlock the bootloader. Carrier versions have locked bootloaders.

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  • spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I just bought a Pixel 10 from Spectrum with the repeated assurance that the phone would be fully unlocked after it was paid off and had several months of service. I intended to load Graphene OS, but apparently I was fucking lied to yet again by another business that say anything to make a sale.

    I can’t do anything about that now, but I can move to another carrier and make damn sure they don’t ever make another dime off my mobile account.

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    • null@lemmy.nullspace.lol ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They thought you meant carrier-unlocked. That’s what most people care about, being able to switch providers.

      I doubt they even knew what a bootloader is.

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      • mmmac@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Once it’s carrier unlocked you should be able to unlock the bootloader though right?

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      • spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They thought you meant carrier-unlocked.

        Nope. I clearly told them I was going to install Graphene OS and I would not be changing carriers.

        They didn’t know the real answer so they just made something up.

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    • jjlinux@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I believe GrapheneOS is not available for the 10 series yet. I’ve been keeping on top of that since I want to change my phone in December, but so far, the last version of Pixel that is known to work with GrapheneOS is the 9 series.

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      • spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It is not yet available for the Pixel 10 and I believe it will be delayed because Google has made Android development private.

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  • masterofn001@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I have a Canadian carrier purchased phone. Brand new Pixel 9. 5$ a month. For 24 months.

    It has only ONCE booted to the Google version of Android.

    To flip the toggle to enable OEM unlock.

    I kept WiFi off and hadn’t inserted a SIM so it couldn’t update or do anything else that might have prevented flashing graphene.

    Not sure if that was necessary, but it worked.

    And now I live my life free of google software surveillance.

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    • Yttra@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Just so nobody else is confused, Canadian carrier phones legally have to be sold unlocked as of 2017

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      • masterofn001@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Carrier unlocked, yes.

        Bootloader unlocked, no.

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  • Arghblarg@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Rogers in Canada has pixels that allow unlocking the bootloader (just got a pixel 9, and once I have some time I’m going to try putting a custom build on it).

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    • masterofn001@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Mine went fine. I kept the radios off before using it and fully flashing just in case.

      I read on the grapheme forums that some carrier software might flip a bit or something if it gets downloaded/provisioned.

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• Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  In most markets, kind of. There are some others but most aren’t sold in NA other than the Pixel.

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  • TimboSlice@discuss.online ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ah okay, thanks

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