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finitebanjo@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  They both support Donald Trump, for example.

  lmao what?

  They both enable ethnostates to send minorities to camps.

  lmao what?

  They believe in a nation ruled by one supreme absolute leader.

  Dictatorship of the proletariat doesn’t mean total rule by one dude named proletariat, it means total rule by the people.

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  • TurkishKebab@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    These liberals and their “both-siding” will be the death of us all

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  • finitebanjo@piefed.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Tankies support China and the USSR, neither of which have ever practiced rule by the proletariat, and of which the remainder is committing their own little genocide at home.

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    • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Weird how they brought a billion farmers out of poverty. I wonder why they would do that if those farmers didn’t have any influence.

      We certainly don’t see that happening in capitalist countries right nextdoor, such as India.

      the remainder is committing their own little genocide at home

      lol you still believe that? Anybody can literally go to Xinjiang, there’s no travel restrictions. Don’t you think they would try to keep foreigners from going there and talking to people if they were committing a genocide?

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      • finitebanjo@piefed.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Thank you for being a perfect example of the point I was making, enjoy your dead minorities and your roads paved in the blood of the innocent.

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  • kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Dictatorship of the proletariat doesn’t mean total rule by one dude named proletariat, it means total rule by the people.

    Tankies want a vanguard of the best brightest to lead and educate the proletariat into a new “socialist” future. Conveniently, the best and brightest happens to be them and their homies.

    They also just so happen to have a new vision of socialist utopianism of you working in a sweat shop for 14 hours a day and eating rationed food while they sip fine wines and write bullshit very online mutants will recite as scripture in the future.

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    • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Instead of listening to anticommunists from a century ago, why don’t we compare what communists have done in China over 50 years to their neighbor, India? One of those countries exports food for a profit while the children of the laborers who picked that food suffer from malnutrition. Or why don’t we look at life expectancy in Cuba today and before the revolution. You can even compare Cuba to their capitalist ruled neighbors.

      To quote (Michael Parenti)[youtube.com/watch?v=xP8CzlFhc14]:

      If Communists, if we Leftists, if we Marxists, if we revolutionaries, if we progressives, if we—all we want is to hunger for power, then why do we side with the powerless? Then why don’t we toady up to power? Why don’t we take the road of the Henry Kissingers and the Patrick—Daniel Patrick Moynihans and the Zbigniew Brzezinskis and the Eugene V. Rostows and the McGeorge Bundys, who toady up and mouth for power? When Henry Kissinger was made National Security Advisor for Richard Nixon, Nelson Rockefeller gave him fifty-thousand bucks as a going-away present.

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• Juice@midwest.social ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The ACP is the only american so-called communist org that supports Trump, and virtually every other segment of the serious organized left considers them a fascist org. Don’t buy into fascist framing of issues or you are working for the fascists when you spread them

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  • finitebanjo@piefed.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And Chinese state run TikTok promoted him and Hexbear was singing his praises. Bottom line is anybody who opposes "us imperialism, capitalism" is happy to see Trump make cruelty the point, happy to see Americans suffer in decline.

    Tankies aren't far left, they're just the CCP's tools of war.

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    • Juice@midwest.social ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That is a total and complete lie. DSA, the largest socialist org in the USA in 100 years is unwaveringly against us imperialism and capitalism, and Trump. There are virtually no tankies in DSA, even the most ml aligned factions in DSA are not “tankies” as you try to slander.

      Democratic socialism is opposed to imperialism and capitalism, none too fond of China or Russia (though I’m sure if you bad faith make certain generalizations you could make illogical connections to suit your purpose), virulently anti Trump and “tankies” when they pop up in our org usually become disengaged ineffective sectarian hyper minorities, though they rarely pop up at all.

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      • finitebanjo@piefed.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If you're not talking about Tankies then what are you even arguing against? I think you've just been fighting a strawman in your head rather than against anything I've written.

        Heres a tip, if you don't want to be treated like a pro-authoritarian bot then stop defending them and stop throwing your hat in with their lot.

        Bernie Sanders early in his career rejected the label of socialist because he didn't want to be associated with the USSR, China, and concentration camps, you can find countless quotes on that. He also doesn't even oppose capitalism, in his book "It's OK to Be Angry About Capitalism" he outlines that the problem is late stage, undemocratic, uber-capitalism and his ideal system is adding the social safety nets they use in scandinavia while taxing the rich.

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• Mubelotix@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  And they are both downvoting you haha

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  • Auntievenim@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    There is literally only 1 downvote

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

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• Jinarched@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv9rC69VMOI

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