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Honestly it’s like talking to a conspiracy theorist.

What are you talking about, what’s “an accounting thing” do you even know what base load is? Go look up brownouts, actually for that matter go look up the term baseload because I don’t think you’re using it right

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frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
You don’t need baseload. You need to follow the duck curve of demand.

You had baseload because those plants used to be the cheapest one you could find. That’s not true anymore, and the model needs to shift with it.

nrdc.org/…/debunking-three-myths-about-baseload

In the past, coal and nuclear were perceived to be the cheapest resources, and the prior electricity system structure relied upon large power plants without valuing flexibility. Today, low natural gas prices, declining renewables costs, flat electricity demand due to more efficient energy use, and stronger climate and public health protections are all driving an irreversible shift in the underlying economics of the electricity industry. As a result, the term “baseload”—which historically has been used to refer to coal and nuclear plants—is no longer useful.

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- PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
  Yes if you ignore all externalities the “economics” means that you can use Natural Gas “peaking” plants instead. But one of the main advantages of nuclear power is zero green-house gas emissions.
  
  If fossil fuels were taxed appropriately, the economics of them wouldn’t be viable anymore. A modest tax of a $million USD per ton of CO2 would fix up that price discrepancy.
  
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  - frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    Most of this is being driven by renewables. Natural gas gets mentioned because its price has dropped due to fracking, but it’s not a strictly necessary part of this argument, either. Water/wind/solar solutions have undercut even the plummet in natural gas prices.
    
    Nuclear has no place. Nobody is building it, and it’s not because regulators are blocking it. It’s also completely unnecessary.
    
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    BombOmOm@lemmy.world ⁨44⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    
    Nobody is building it
    
    France built the fuck out of it, 71% of their power is nuclear. Works darn well.
    
    it’s not because regulators are blocking it
    
    In the US, the over-regulation makes it too expensive. Every plant is bespoke instead of mass produced, with exchangable parts, personell, and knowledge.
    
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