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frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

There is absolutely nothing required about baseload power. It’s there because the economics of generating power favored it in the past. You could build a baseload plant that spits out a GW or so all day, everyday for relatively cheap.

That economic advantage is no longer there, and no longer relevant.

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echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Well you still need baseload. You can’t forget about it just because it’s inconvenient.

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- frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  No, you don’t. It’s entirely an accounting thing.
  
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  - echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Honestly it’s like talking to a conspiracy theorist.
    
    What are you talking about, what’s “an accounting thing” do you even know what base load is? Go look up brownouts, actually for that matter go look up the term baseload because I don’t think you’re using it right
    
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    frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    You don’t need baseload. You need to follow the duck curve of demand.
    
    You had baseload because those plants used to be the cheapest one you could find. That’s not true anymore, and the model needs to shift with it.
    
    nrdc.org/…/debunking-three-myths-about-baseload
    
    In the past, coal and nuclear were perceived to be the cheapest resources, and the prior electricity system structure relied upon large power plants without valuing flexibility. Today, low natural gas prices, declining renewables costs, flat electricity demand due to more efficient energy use, and stronger climate and public health protections are all driving an irreversible shift in the underlying economics of the electricity industry. As a result, the term “baseload”—which historically has been used to refer to coal and nuclear plants—is no longer useful.
    
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BombOmOm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
What makes power when the sun isn’t out and the wind isn’t blowing? Nuclear, gas, or coal.

By being anti-nuclear, you force it to be gas or coal.

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