Comment on Estonia is digging a 40 km trench to stop Russian tanks — and 600 bunkers are next

• Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  it’s just an irrigation canal. A BMP could cross that without having to slow down, it can’t be more than 3m and has such beautiful ramped sides. The biggest threat might be getting stuck in the loose dirt of the spoil berm, but really there’s not enough there to trouble a hilux let alone an AFV or true tank.

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  • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I wouldn’t want to be the people in the tank. If you tried to hit that at full speed it wouldn’t be pleasant plus you would tear up your tank.

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    • Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Riding in any AFV isn’t comfortable, Russian tanks especially. This sure wouldn’t be pleasant, but it’d be a great deal more fun than being hit with an AT round because you stopped in the middle of an empty field.

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  • Madison420@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    There is no stopping a tank force that’s determined by obstacle alone, countries in WW2 spent millions and lots of resources into complex anti tank setups and the lesson learned is nothing stops them. You just invest the least to be the most annoying and by that I mean time consuming.

    At the very least you have to slow and turn your turret away from the place you want to go which is problematic if there’s people on the other side who don’t have to turn their guns away.

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    • Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      At the very least you have to slow and turn your turret away from the place you want to go

      You don’t, though, not in this case - because this isn’t an anti-tank ditch. You might have to elevate to prevent sticking your snoot in the berm, but (and not to go all war-thunder here) it’s two button presses and at most a second’s delay in motion to get back on sight, and thanks to the stabilization the turret is still tracking the entire time you’re doing that. And that’s just if you don’t blast the berm out of the way. And this doesn’t apply to most AFV’s, since they don’t have protruding barrels that might foul while crossing this.

      There’s lots more here about the way static defenses factor into defense in depth and how modern improvements to the strategy incorporate information warfare to improve the cost/effect ratio, but I’m lazy - if you want to learn more look up Ukraine and Russia’s current anti-tank policy or Russia’s counter-counter-strike preparations from last year. At the very least though it’ll give you some photos of what a legit anti-tank barrier looks like, which isn’t this goofy thing designed just to deter the so horrible “migration offensive”.

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      • Madison420@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yes you do physics exists and gun barrels aren’t super into impacts or being filled with mud.

        You’re article supports me not you. It never says it is or isn’t a anti tank ditch, it does imply it’s anti vehicle though with tanks being a vehicle.

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