Comment on User "threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works" is banning users for downvoting his posts.

• Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Your position is reasonable if down votes are suppressive, but I wouldn’t develop a content algorithm that treated them as such.

  I would use an “engagement” algorithm. Upvoting increases engagement, commenting increases engagement, down voting increases engagement, reporting increases engagement. The viewing time - the time between initially accessing it and viewing a new page - increases engagement.

  The most suppressive thing you can do to a piece of content is click away in less than 20 seconds.

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  • Skavau@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well that would mean a lot of attention seeking troll posts could trend.

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    • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Depends on how exactly it’s implemented, sure. That obviously isn’t the result I’d be looking for.

      My point, though, is only that a “downvote” need not mean “hide this kind of post away from the general public”. A downvote can mean something more like “This pissed me off and more people should read it.”

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• Electricd@lemmybefree.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That probably wouldn’t and would obviously be vote manipulation. This situation is pretty rare and is ignored, like on YouTube, because people get bored and most people wont go out of their way to do this

  Problem is: Lemmy’s algorithm is shit and doesn’t learn from our preferences. If it did, we would see less posts that we dislike

  People just can’t stand being disliked. Should we ban people disliking crypto posts? Because damn most of my posts are disliked based on people hating and spreading lies about crypto just because they dislike it

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  • Blaze@lazysoci.al ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Problem is: Lemmy’s algorithm is shit and doesn’t learn from our preferences. If it did, we would see less posts that we dislike

    Piefed has keyword filters that can help with that issue.

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    • Electricd@lemmybefree.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Keywords filters are really basic. Most people don’t want to bother with that, or risk hiding interesting posts

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      • Blaze@lazysoci.al ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I filtered “musk”, “trump”, reduced the amount of US politics post tremendously

        I might add “kirk” at some point, depending how much it’s still discussed in the coming weeks

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  • Skavau@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That probably wouldn’t and would obviously be vote manipulation. This situation is pretty rare and is ignored, like on YouTube, because people get bored and most people wont go out of their way to do this

    Absolutely, it is rare. But people do it. As I've said before, I banned 5 people on the original !television@lemm.ee instance for just downvoting posts repeatedly. No pattern. None of the accounts were active on the community n terms of posting. Some of the accounts had never even posted on the fediverse - they were simply downvote accounts that purely existed to vote negatively on content.

    Problem is: Lemmy's algorithm is shit and doesn’t learn from our preferences. If it did, we would see less posts that we dislike

    Piefed has much more control here. People can easily just block communities though.

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