Comment on 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' Producers Promise Season 4 Will Be Better

krunklom@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It wasn’t bad but it wasn’t good either

  Especially the questionable Vulcan episode…

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• FlexibleToast@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I don’t understand the dislike it gets. It had a couple fun episodes and that’s a bad thing?

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    1. They waste too much time as a high school romantic drama.
    2. The musical was just the lowest point in the Star Trek Franchise since the 70s homo-erotic animated series.
    3. Fireplace on a starship…just shoot me now.
    4. They spend a lot of time drinking and having parties. A lot of fucking around on Starfleet, what happened to all those sensors that need re-calibrating and re-aligning?

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    • FlexibleToast@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      1. Fair
      2. I strongly disagree. I really enjoyed that episode.
      3. Fair, but minor
      4. Of course their is. These people can’t work 24/7 for a 5 year mission…

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  • krunklom@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah beats me. It’s still the best tell since the aughts.

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    • FlexibleToast@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      By a wide margin too.

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      • krunklom@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Agreed. Unless we’re counting Risa/ tenforward. Then it’s second best.

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  • thetrekkersparky@startrek.website ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is the problem with modern TV shows. We only have 10 episode seasons now vs the 20+ long ones from the TNG era. If these were all episodes in a season that lasted 20 episodes I doubt we would be seeing as many complaints, but as it is 10 episodes does not leave much room for any change of pace mid season. This season, while in my opinion was quite well written, was a little all over the place and didn’t really seem to have a lot of direction. It really bounced around a lot, which wouldn’t be a problem as much if there was 20 episodes to work with, but when you only have 10 its hard to justify some of the “fun” or experimental episodes.

    As an aside. My least favourite episode “This is Starfleet” was also my favourite story in the season and if it was shot as a normal episode I think would have probably be my favourite of the series so far. It really captured the “Classic Trek” vibe for me.

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    • FlexibleToast@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The 10 episodes really is not enough. What’s worse is the shows with 10 or even 8 episodes that have two+ years between seasons.

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      • thetrekkersparky@startrek.website ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I mean… There was at least 2 years between season 2 & 3.

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    • bobo1900@startrek.website ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You are right, with 20+ episodes it’s easier to have a common theme while still being episodic enough to have episodes that don’t advance the plot but are either funny or explore some unrelated theme. 10 episodes season work for a serialized series (like discovery), but an episodic 10 episodes series is a hybrid of the two and more difficult to pull throught.

      However, I still think they did a good job, the season was fun and enjoyable, and I don’t really care there’s no “big picture plot”. After all, this is not telling the voyage of a ship lost in the galaxy or a multi-year war with a foreign dominion, it’s a character build-up story that will eventually become the original series, it’s a prequel and doesn’t try to be anything else. Surely I enjoyed it more than galaxy-destroying-threat-of-the-year discovery.

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      • thetrekkersparky@startrek.website ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah. I do think they did a great job btw. This season was such a ride and I can’t wait for season 4. I just meant that with so few episodes you really feel when one doesn’t hit right.

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  • MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They need to hate something. Discovery has ended, Lower Decks and Picard too, and Academy isn’t out yet, so what are they gonna hate on?

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• hallettj@leminal.space ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  They set a high bar with the first two seasons.

  I felt like there were highlights in season 3. But it also felt uneven. The episodes I liked felt good, but not great. The first two seasons had great episodes.

  There was also a distinct lack of social commentary, which I feel is important in Star Trek. The best we got was Terrarium. Definitely a fun episode, but it’s core is a trope we’ve seen a number of times. What Is Starfleet looked like it was thinking about commenting on something, but frantically pulled the ripcord partway through, and went in a direction I wasn’t comfortable with. (Which is too bad because I thought the directing in that episode was very cool.) There’s nothing on the level of Ad Astra Per Aspera. Instead we got 5 episodes of mortal struggle vs unreasoning monsters.

  the list of unreasoning monsters

  Gorn, plant zombies, the “pure evil” on Vadia IX, the ship-eating ship

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• dethstrobe@startrek.website ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I also really like Season 3, but I do feel it is the weakest of the 3 seasons we got so far.

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    one word: musical.

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  • krunklom@lemmy.zip ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Agreed. It was still good tho.

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• troed@fedia.io ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Agree - I enjoyed it a lot.

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