Comment on Randy Pitchford Snaps Back at Borderlands 4 Criticism: 'Code Your Own Engine'
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Obligatory dril tweet about not “Gotta hand it to them”
But yeah. It is infuriating how often people just spew nonsense about “it is Unreal so it runs like shit” just like it was when “It is Unity so it runs like shit” and so forth. I very much do not think people need to “code (their) own engine” to understand things but… it would be a good idea to to do some basic research on the topic.
I can’t speak for blands 4 specifiaclly. But with a lot of these games? People don’t realize that the game is very much being optimized with upscaling and even framegen in mind. You can say you hate that if you want to. But these studios aren’t targeting 120 FPS at 4k. They are targeting 120 FPS at 2k or even 60 FPS at 2k. In large part because… there still isn’t a lot of value in actually targeting 4k on any console or even most PCs. So it gives them more or less a “single” target. And some techniques don’t scale anywhere near as well (also 2k to 4k is not linear).
It is just that people grew up in the golden age where everything was targeting a PS4 and kind of has been for almost a decade at this point. So the idea of futzing with your graphics settings and checking the different AA (now upscaling) models is kind of anathema to a lot of users. And consoles STILL try to hide all of that.
SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
If I buy a 1000 dollar graphics card I’m expecting it to run any game at max settings with NO upscaling. Because that was the norm for over 20 years.
Upscaling is supposed to be used to EXTEND the life of lower end graphics cards, not be the new fucking normal.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 23 hours ago
You can expect whatever you want. That isn’t what is being sold. That’s why so much of the nVidia bullshit insists that reviewers and partners report upscaling and framegen as the “normal” results (and why outlets like Gamers Nexus are on their shitlist).
And the “norm for over 20 years” was that games targeted a specific range of hardware “power”. That is why so much work was put into engines to support higher res models in first person view that would only be one per scene and lower res models that other characters have. And scaling detail based on distance and so forth. But it also meant that we didn’t have the ridiculously high res hero models that might only exist for cutscenes because no computer of the era would be able to run that performantly in real time.
Personally? I would LOVE if more effort were put in for scalability (which Unreal is ironically really good at because it targets film). But that gets back into what the target audience is and if it is worth putting the effort in for “Mega Ultra Super Epic” settings when nobody is going to use them. And… considering that one of the biggest issues is people refuse to put more research in than “I set it to High”… yeah.
SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
That’s what was being sold for over three decades. I give 1000 dollars worth of graphics card, I can run anything at max settings with no compromises. Nvidia and videogame devs enshittified this shit so much that you require stuff that should be reserved for LOW END graphics cards to run the game properly. Fuck that.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
Hey buddy. I got a 2070 that I’ll give you a real bargain on. Only 900 USD plus s&h. It’ll play Crysis at max settings with absolutely no compromises. Hit me up.
But, in all seriousness: This is why (minimally biased) reviews are a thing. Outlets like Gamers Nexus or Hardware Unboxed do a spectacular job of actually benchmarking against common games of the current era (and a few oldies) and comparing them against a large database of other cards. Don’t just assume that you can give Jensen a grand and get what you want. Make informed decisions.
Also I am not actually sure if 900 is ACTUALLY a steal for a 2070 at this point and didn’t care enough to check for my joke. SImilarly, I want to say a grand is closer to a 4070 than a 4090 at this point? Shit is REAL fucked which is even more why you should actually look at what you are buying rather than “30 years ago if I gave someone a thousand bucks they would suck me off AND let me play every game I could ever want at a full 640*40 and 30 FPS!”
TwinTitans@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
It’s a PC. It could run one thing great and another like total dog shit. A games performance hinges on so much more than just a graphics card.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 18 hours ago
Yeah, like the optimisation of the game for starter.