Comment on User "threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works" is banning users for downvoting his posts.

• Coupable@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What about if someone entered the community to mass downvote everything? Or did so every day?

  That’s fine, if the post is legitimately popular, the upvotes will outweigh the downvotes. That’s how all of this works, and how it has always worked.

  If I made a metal music community, and an account came in every day to downvote every post because they don’t like metal - would I be justified in banning them for that?

  No, that would be an abuse of your mod powers. Conversely, how many downvotes do you think a user should be allowed before you can ban them for disagreeing with you?

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  • Skavau@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That's fine, if the post is legitimately popular, the upvotes will outweigh the downvotes. That's how all of this works, and how it has always worked.

    No, this doesn't apply to small and growing communities. Or niche communities of specific interests. When I started up my community, many posts wouldn't get many votes - and an early downvote or two could easily sink a new post from trending at all, leaving it to languish to nowhere.

    No, that would be an abuse of your mod powers.

    Based on what?

    Conversely, how many downvotes do you think a user should be allowed before you can ban them for disagreeing with you?

    It's not about numbers specifically. People downvote in my community now - and I see the same names whenever I check from time to time, but they also upvote and contribute - so I am not that bothered. I have only banned a handful of users for this behaviour since I started. Each one of them did nothing but downvote everything, and never contributed at all to the community.

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    • Coupable@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Each one of them did nothing but downvote everything, and never contributed at all to the community.

      Downvotes are a contribution, they are just the kind of contribution you don’t like. based on this, I don’t think you area good fit for modding; you should probably look to pass your role on to someone who can moderate responsibly.

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    • ech@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Based on what?

      You’re actively arguing for vote manipulation on the part of moderators.

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      • Skavau@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think its justified for community moderators to ban an account that never interacts on their community, and downvotes everything. I think it's not justified for community moderators to ban an account just for a single downvote on any thread.

        I think if there's a serious problem, people can either make their own version of the community on another instance (a perk of the fediverse), or pressure the instance owner in which the community is based - to remove them (another perk of accountability that doesn't exist in the same way on Reddit).

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