Comment on User "threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works" is banning users for downvoting his posts.
goat@sh.itjust.works 2 days agoI regularly get vote manipulation in my community and on my account. What are some ways to better handle that?
Comment on User "threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works" is banning users for downvoting his posts.
goat@sh.itjust.works 2 days agoI regularly get vote manipulation in my community and on my account. What are some ways to better handle that?
socsa@piefed.social 1 day ago
Mostly I'm talking about various algorithmic ways to diminish or eliminate the influence of downvotes for post ranking purposes. Nothing that can be done without forking Lemmy or piefed unfortunately. Even something like downvotes don't actually rank posts, but enough of them will auto-report content would be better than what we have.
It's unfortunate that nobody wants to put serious effort into this kind of thing though, because it feels like admins are addicted to the tiny amount of insider power which comes with watching public votes, so there's no incentive to implement features which might allow closing that obnoxious privacy hole.
wjs018@piefed.social 1 day ago
Piefed has an open issue to look at improvements to the ranking/scoring algorithms. So, we are open to improvements on that end if there are suggestions.
Blaze@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Seems like an easy abuse case: once the threshold is known, people can create auto reports using puppet accounts, that can’t be identified due to anonymous voting
socsa@piefed.social 20 hours ago
The voting agents can still be identified and banned. As with all of these imagined issues, a single permanent voting agent introduces no actual vulnerability above normal sockpuppets without voting agents. Misbehave in the votes, ban the voting agent. Misbehave in the comments, ban the user. In terms of just vote manipulation, it literally does not reduce the effort of the troll or increase the work of the mod.
Blaze@lazysoci.al 19 hours ago
Doesn’t that defeat the purpose of the agents?
IIRC @MrKaplan@lemmy.world also showed that it was trivial to map the voting agents with the user based on the comments
If you can’t change your agent, then a patched version of lemvotes can do that mapping
If you can change your agent, you have puppet accounts on steroids
goat@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Too often are the devs busy with moderating and removing content critical of their ideology instead of development
Blaze@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Not the case for Piefed
goat@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
mighty tempting