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Comment on If a country needs to employ state-sponsored patriotism, it's usually because there's nothing to be proud of about the country.

newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

There is no difference between patriotism and nationalism. Both instill pride in non-achievements (like being born in the right place) while degrading others for the offense of being born somewhere else.

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shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Patriotism is loving your country and wanting to do the best for it. Nationalism is the poison version of that.

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squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
This is absolutely it.

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Mesa@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
I don’t think there’s anything inherently wrong with being proud of impersonal achievements. If one of your parents did something considered pretty great, it’s generally fine to be proud of it, even though you had no agency in being born to them.

As with anything, though, it’s very possible to take it to the extreme. If an achievement or value becomes your entire personality and you begin to actively disparage others on the basis of not-being-that, as you said, that’s when I call it one of the bad “-isms.”

I see nationalism as a range within that of patriotism, but starting at that extremist point.

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