Vscode being more accessible than Visual doesn’t actually mean anything in the grand scheme of code creation. Both sucks btw.
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NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months agoVSCode
Valmond@lemmy.world 2 months ago
NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Yet VSCode is one of the most popular IDEs with many other IDEs being forks of it.
I am amazed this is even remotely controversial. It’s one of the few products they make that’s actually good. Just tells you how far off the real world most Lemmy users are lol.
Valmond@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Popular. So coca cola is the best drink?
JetBrains are miles ahead visual code for example.
Funny how you just have to be condescending, almost like you don’t have any real arguments. But keep on being “amazed”, bet you’re “amazed” about ai vibe coding, I mean it is all the rage …
NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
I actually like JetBrains too. It isn’t mutually exclusive to only like one or the other.
You haven’t made a single real argument either.
Here let me make mine:
VSCode works with a huge range of languages, is very flexible and extendable, and has great support for remote development, development in containers, and even has cloud hosted IDEs based on it (Eclipse Che anyone?). Despite being web based it’s somehow faster/lighter than JetBrains.
eronth@lemmy.world 2 months ago
What does JetBrains do that makes it miles ahead?
Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Funnily I have been fine with a lot of Microsoft software before, but VSCode was not one of them. Mostly because I’m very picky about something I’ll be using all day everyday and for that VSCode has too many issues for my taste.
NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Yeah editors are largely a matter of taste for some people. I won’t say VSCode is perfectly to my taste. The issue is it’s easy to use and works with just about every language, tool, and environment I need it to. Like I would probably prefer Zed or Neovim in some areas. Zed won’t work on one of my machines properly for some unknown reason. Neovim would require too much tweaking and learning before it could be useful. Even then I couldn’t guarantee I would actually be as productive as VSCode since not all the same tools are available. It might not work in every project I end up working on.
Essentially I have given up perfection in pursuit of convenience. If you have the time, patience, and the certainly of what you are working on then other IDEs and tooling can be much more tailored to you.
abir_v@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I don’t intend to have the tone of some of these other guys; if you like it that’s fine, really.
But man, every time I’ve used VSCode, I cannot help but hate it. It’s a mess of a user experience, with anything off the beaten path being community supported via plugins that have different opinions on how they should work.
I’m a nvim user these days, I’m all about extensible tools, but I can redefine how they work if it’s not a default I like, so it’s always cohesive to me.
Between the full-fat IDEs, I prefer JetBrains by far, but these days I pretty much just use the terminal - it’s just faster and it’s easy to get it to meet me where I’m at.
NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
I am sure the terminal IDEs are great. I did used to play around with vim myself, and still use it for editing config files. I have had some success with Jet Brains as well. It’s a solid product.
I don’t really have the energy it takes to configure and learn all the stuff that’s needed for a terminal only setup these days. I guess I am just not as discerning as you are. I might try a ready made solution like LazyVim.
abir_v@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Lazy works. I started my config from this repo. It got me up and running well enough with a pretty basic viable config almost immediately with a well documented parts for me to tweak at my leisure as I hit pain points.
But, if you do try it and don’t like it, or prefer a G-IDE - at least you tried it. Good luck to you, captain.
drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
You’re talking to a vim user. If you even suggest that a MS product is better I’ll go crazy and crush up my own teeth into dust and then put it in my morning breakfast milk to make Teeth Milk (Tilk)
You’ve been warned.
(It’s 6 in the morning and I still haven’t slept I’m really sorry about this but this reply seems really funny to me so I’m posting against my better judgement)
NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
I am not going to argue if it is better or worse than vim. I actually use both; they both have strengths and weaknesses imo. I use them for different tasks. I will say though that VSCode is extremely popular for programming and for good reasons. It’s a good product, one of the best things Microsoft make.
Out of interest: why vim and not neovim?
drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
And I can’t really argue with you cause, I’ll be honest with you, I’m an amateur programmer. I actually do use neovim though, I just said vim because it’s just more recognizable. Like, that’s just kinda the name of this general category of thing. Don’t have enough experience to know the difference between the two though (except that vim doesn’t clear itself from my terminal when I exit, that’s annoying. Oh and the tutor. And the color. But I haven’t experimented with any of those cool plug-ins yet…)
NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
In neovim you can have a terminal inside a buffer. So you can have a terminal and your code open side by side like you would in a modern IDE, or emacs for that matter.