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dan@upvote.au ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• riskable@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  As an information security professional and someone who works on tiny, embedded systems, knowing that a project is written in Rust is a huge enticement. I wish more projects written in Rust advertised this fact!

  Benefits of Rust projects—from my perspective:

  • Don’t have to worry about the biggest, most common security flaws. Rust projects can still have security flaws (anything can) but it’s much less likely for certain categories of flaws.
  • Super easy to build stuff from scratch. Rust’s crates ecosystem is fantastic! Especially in the world of embedded where it’s a godsend compared to dealing with C/C++ libraries.
  • It’s probably super low overhead and really fast (because Rust stuff just tends to be like that due to the nature of the language and that special way the borrow checker bitches at you when you make poor programming choices haha).
  • It’s probably cross-platform or trivially made cross-platform.

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  • dan@upvote.au ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thanks, this is a good insight.

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• BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  People who are into systems languages would care and for newer languages the more people advertise their usage the more mainstream it becomes and then bigger more traditional companies would consider using it and that would help increase the size of that languages ecosystem and community so I’m okay with people adding written in Rust to their project descriptions

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• AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I mean, for myself personally if it were written in NodeJS or Python or something I’d be less interested.

  And I don’t even care about Rust. It’s just that everything and their sister is written in NodeJS and Python. I say this as someone who founded a company that uses Python.

  Also the more I hear about actual Rust adoption the more willing I am to consider it for the next big thing.

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  • dan@upvote.au ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    if it were written in NodeJS or Python or something I’d be less interested.

    Does it matter if it’s running in Docker and the container is lightweight (say less than 50MB), though? I like apps being written in a language I know well so I can contribute if needed, but other than that, I mostly treat a Docker image as a black box.

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    • AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’d be awesome. Unfortunately most of my experience (and I realize that is my experience) has so many packages dependencies that 50MB is impossible.

      Don’t get me wrong, I am proficient in JS/TS so being able to work handily in NodeJS is great, less context switching, but I feel like so many companies in contract for just jam a square peg into a round hole because - and it just makes things painful.

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      • dan@upvote.au ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah it’s definitely not possible to reach 50MB with a Node.js Docker image, but <150MB should be doable with a distroless base image + compiling the app into one JS file (for example, using Parcel or esbuild).

        It’s possible to reach ~50-60MB Docker image with a C# app though. Rust and Go definitely produce more compact binaries though.

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• SinTan1729@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s just a way to advertise, I think. I’ve found myself putting more trust in projects written in Rust or Go, than say, JavaScript.

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  • NatoBoram@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s advertising the inherent safety that comes from Rust and Go having errors as values. They’re just fundamentally better languages.

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• Lightfire228@pawb.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Imo, it’s nice to see tools written in a memory safe systems language

  Especially if you use a lot of them. More utility, less attack surface

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  • dan@upvote.au ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This makes sense! You get the same advantage if the app uses Go or C# though, and both of those can compile to a single statically-linked executable too.

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    • riskable@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If it’s written in C# that’s a huge turn-off though because that means it’s likely to only run on Windows.

      I mean, in theory, it could run on Linux but that’s a very rare situation. Almost everything ever written in C# uses Windows-specific APIs and basically no one installs the C# runtime on Linux anymore. It’s both enormous and a pain in the ass to get working properly for any given C# project.

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      • dan@upvote.au ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        C# has been cross platform for a long time.

        Almost everything ever written in C# uses Windows-specific APIs

        Not really. Most C# apps use .NET libraries rather than direct Win32 calls, and .NET is cross-platform.

        basically no one installs the C# runtime on Linux anymore

        You can compile a C# app to a single executable that doesn’t require the framework to be installed.

        Are you running Jellyfin, the *arr suite, slskd, or Technitium DNS? They’re all written in C#.

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