That’s not how you spell UBports.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 week ago
You’re pissed about it? Visit here: opencollective.com/postmarketOS
IMHO that’s our best shot. Totally Google free, mainstream Linux kernel.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 week ago
viking@infosec.pub 1 week ago
Can you install generic apks on UBports, or only precompiled .deb packages and other native Linux applications?
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 week ago
It’s a full version of Linux. It also has a desktop mode if you want to use it with an external monitor, keyboard, and mouse. You have all the same control you would have on other Ubuntu-based flavors.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 week ago
No one here is talking about regular people. Regular people will keep using stock Android.
UBports still relies on Android kernel and services. Custom ROMs are such a small part of the Android ecosystem that I didn’t think Google will go after them yet they did. Can we be sure in a couple of years they will not try to destroy Android based distros like UBports?
I also don’t really like the entire idea behind UBports. It’s so heavily modified you can’t even easily run native Linux apps so you’re limited to Ubuntu Touch apps. As a developer I’m not really interested in learning completely new framework that supports only one platform. We have solutions to create cross platform Linux-Android apps so I can move my apps from Android phone to PostmarketOS without any work, they already work there.
So I’m supporting PostmarketOS and I really hope it will be usable when my Pixel phone dies. If not I will switch to something Halium based. What else is there to do?
phx@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
Yeah I agree. I’ve used PMOS as well as Lineage and Graphene. The latter was the best experience and PMOS was the one that needed the most work, at least to reach any sort of side adoption.
I’m actually looking at something running SailfishOS as my potential happy mid-point, but currently the Jolla phone - which would be my preferred device for this - doesn’t seem to shop outside Europe yet.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Is 20.04 the latest release?
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 week ago
No, it’s currently on 24.
The version number with “OTA-#” at the end is the “over the air” updater.
Battle_Masker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
Does this also work with android tablets? Or is there a separate os for those?
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 week ago
Here you can see current state: wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices
In theory it will just be another Linux able to run on everything Linux supports + Android hardware. Honestly I don’t know if it will ever run on common modern phones but it should at least be possible to run it on more “open” phones like Fairphone or PinePhone.
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 1 week ago
These are the most supported devices, maintained by at least 2 people and have the functions you expect from the device running its normal OS, such as calling on a phone, working audio, and a functional UI.
If the below is where we are at still with PostmarketOS, it will be a decade or more before it is anything more than a curiosity.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 week ago
As I said, I don’t think we can expect PostmarketOS to work on normal phones but looking at the table they have PinePhone figured out. My hope is that we will soon see something like PinePhone but with proper specs that will actually be usable and that some phone makes like Fairphone will help make PostmaketOS run on their phones. Couple of properly supported models is all we really need and I hope it’s couple of years away, not a decade.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
Can you just refuse to upgrade your 2021 or previous (nothing on their device list applies to models released after 2021) to not be affected by this policy change? I have never noticed a useful feature in android version upgrades for quite a while now.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 week ago
Yes but you will also stop getting security fixes. After some time it gets risky.
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Don’t worry as the current OEMs continue to lock down bootloaders and lock required drivers behind copyright and other restrictive licensing schemes they will ensure nice things like PostmarketOS at beat remain fringe and never able to replace modern phones for daily usage.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 week ago
Most of they will but hopefully we will still have projects like PinePhone or Fairphone that will support it.