i guess?? but where does the energy and human labor come from in this “fair world”?? coal and wages?
automated luxury space communism is not upon us, we are only a few hundred years from the advent of industrialisation.
we are at the point were social democracies are barely functioning and fascism is still on the rise due to small time dilemmas and culture war. the working class has not been made conscious, and probably wont be for another couple decades.
“ai” is just another corporate invention to steal and resell working class labor for the rich, the “fair world” you ask for was appropriated in the 50s for western exceptionalism and neo colonialism.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
The luddites didn’t hate machines because they loved manual labor…
They wanted to ensure that mechanization benefited the workers via less hours and increased wages rather than the same wages and less jobs to go away.
Destroying mechanization was just an accomplishable goal in that fight.
What you’re doing is falling for propaganda from a long ass time ago by the owner class…
Vanth@reddthat.com 20 hours ago
If we’re lucky. It’s more likely to be lower wages. “We don’t need to pay experienced programmers anymore, they aren’t writing the code after all. We just need cheaper, less skilled people to review the code that is already 99% fine”.
💯 Not about the tech, it’s about who is going to use the tech to make life worse for the working class.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
The parrels between the mechanical loom for them and AI for us really seem like they should be obvious…
But it’s crazy on Labor Day weekend people are shit talking the luddites
Serinus@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
It’ll go the other way, eventually. Keep the experienced people who are willing to use AI and can handle the more complicated things AI can’t.
But for now they’re just firing people and hoping things still work later. Since research and development both have delayed results, they can celebrate their win immediately and not pay the consequences til later.
Grimy@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Or using the actual current definition of the word. It’s like going on a rant about hunters when you get called a nimrod.
I’m also going to push back on pretending the current anti-ai movement is against capitalism when it’s pro copyright. Their support is what big AI companies are using to create their monopoly.
This centuries luddites aren’t tearing down machinery but helping build a walled garden.
deegeese@sopuli.xyz 15 hours ago
Trying to guess others’ motivations is a good way to show your own biases.
I hate the copyright lobby, I just hate AI grifters even more.
Grimy@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I can only comment on the behavior I see. This is an online forum, I don’t have a choice but to assume.
Regardless, most are very vocal about AI being theft, a line of thinking that directly benefits the copyright lobby and big AI. Big AI doesn’t mind paying for the data if it gives them a monopoly.
The moment a chatbot does something mildly worrisome, like help draft a suicide letter, the conversation is filled with people calling for censorship, protection and regulation. Again, something that would directly benefit big AI.