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rhvg@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• OpenStars@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  r/Redditalternatives describes the various reasons that people decided to abandon Lemmy and go back to Reddit:
  - lack of content
  - too difficult to figure out how to use
  - it's "the place that tankies built"
  - too toxic, extremist leftists piling on anything not supporting their dogma hard enough, or sometimes just "too political"
  - overall they do not feel welcomed. Tbf many on Reddit are centrists or even conservatives, and quite toxic themselves.

  Notably, PieFed provides solutions to many of these e.g. the sign-up wizard that subscribes people to communities based on their indicated interests.

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  • rhvg@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I was referring to the entire fedi is losing users. Appreciate sharing about Lenin.

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  • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Conservatives: “All these big websites keep gradually sucking for some unknowable reason. They must all just have the wrong people in charge.”

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    • OpenStars@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No... well yes, obviously 🤣, but not exclusively I mean.

      Example 1

      Example 2, with this seemingly relevant excerpt:

      The overton window there is not even big enough to allow all Dems to express opinions. A Bernie progressive like me who occasionally expresses a mainstream Dem opinion is too rightwing for lemmy.world

      And further down the comment chain the same person says:

      how was I supposed to know lemmy.world was one of lemmy's worst sites when I fled to lemmy in the reddit exodus? As a Bernie progressive it took me a long time to figure out how tightly censored their discussions were.

      This person sounds like if not an actual liberal then at most a centrist who was seeking help in understanding a specific issue (which is linked there in the comments), but got kicked out for trying to discuss it. Tbf there truly do need to be safe spaces I get that, so I'm not coming down hard on any particular examples or even a particular style of solution - and I certainly am not advocating for cessation of moderation!!! (Nor do I agree in the slightest that lemmy.world is one of Lemmy's worst sites or even a particularly bad one) I am just providing this context of why people say that they have left Lemmy, even those extremely few that joined here in the first place, so having gotten over the "too confusing to figure out" stage.

      If I were to advocate for a solution, it might be to create some spaces that are more welcoming to centrists, which would mean proper labeling of spaces not like in "correct vs. absolutely horribly and morally bankrupt" but more "left vs. right" (which itself is difficult to describe as it depends on local context). Or at least be honest about how this place is, i.e. give up any hopes that it will ever grow much beyond what it is now. Purity beatings will continue until morale improves... and if you don't like it then you can leav- hey where are you going!? (screeching) Don't you know what a "nice man" I am!?! 🤣

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