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• Ferrous@lemmy.ml ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Again, asking for any type of source or statistic over anecdotes. Your “observations” go against reputable polling and statistics of people in China.

  Was this survey conducted in Taiwan and signed as “China” complying with “one China policy”?

  No… in fact this was a Harvard study that started off with “Given how China is an authoritarian nightmare, how widespread is support for the government?”

  …harvard.edu/…/final_policy_brief_7.6.2020.pdf

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  • dude@lemmings.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Well, I must have been super unlucky then as I have talked about it with like 5 different Chinese met at 5 different circumstances

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    • Ferrous@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yes… that is not only possible, but likely when n=5…

      Please, the original claim was “Chinese people feel coerced”, which is wrong by every metric, and there is no evidence to support this claim.

      Although China is certainly not immune from severe social and economic challenges, there is little evidence to support the idea that the CCP is losing legitima- cy in the eyes of its people. In fact, our survey shows that, across a wide variety of metrics, by 2016 the Chi- nese government was more popular than at any point during the previous two decades. On average, Chinese citizens reported that the government’s provision of healthcare, welfare, and other essential public services was far better and more equitable than when the survey began in 2003. Also, in terms of corruption, the drop in satisfaction between 2009 and 2011 was complete- ly erased, and the public appeared generally support- ive of Xi Jinping’s widely-publicized anti-corruption campaign. Even on the issue of the environment, where many citizens expressed dissatisfaction, the majority of respondents expected conditions to improve over the next several years. For each of these issues, China’s poorer, non-coastal residents expressed equal (if not even greater) confidence in the actions of government than more privileged residents. As such, there was no real sign of burgeoning discontent among China’s main demographic groups, casting doubt on the idea that the country was facing a crisis of political legitimacy.

      …harvard.edu/…/final_policy_brief_7.6.2020.pdf

      Let me guess: Harvard is tankie?

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      • dude@lemmings.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Did you actually read what you quote? It aligns with what I said - Chinese feel mostly satisfied with their government and don’t want the democracy, and don’t feel that their government is democratic. Claiming that Chinese believe that their country is democratic is not what Harvard did in the document that you’ve provided.

        Regarding “not only possible but likely”: please do the math. If the share of population believing in X is 90%, the chance that none of the five selected people do X is (1 - 0.9)^5 = 0.001% (i.e., 1 in 100,000), assuming independence across people. That’s what you call likely?

        PS. Why is this always the .ml instance 😀

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