They are not failing to pick a name. They are making the point that the party will be entirely run by members. So members will choose the name at the first conference in autumn.
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Charzard4261@programming.dev 2 weeks agoThis is what worries me. If they can’t even decisively pick a name how are they supposed to unify left wing voters? It does not inspire confidence.
Labour didn’t win the last election, the Tories lost because Reform split the vote and they happend to have the next biggest voter base. Now that Labour is losing it and Reform is gaining momentum, Your Party should have chosen a name and gone on the offensive long ago.
HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Charzard4261@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
It’s good to hear they’ve put a soft deadline on it, but I can’t help but think it’s wasted time when they could be building recognition with the average person. I hope I’m worrying over nothing.
HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Given it’s 4 years till the next election. And nothing can really happen until then.
Added to the way the PLP and leadership took over the labour party ignoring the members wishes. On many issues.
The founders think ensuring the democratic roots and management of this new party is more important then rushing it’s formation.
Charzard4261@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Thank you for taking the time to share your insight, it’s definitely worth doing things right rather than rushed. I guess I’m a bit panicked by how fast things went downhill across the pond, but that’s probably just social media’s American bias shoving it in my face so much.
If this is done properly it could very well be what we need. I’ll hold on to hope.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
We don’t need that level of micromanagement nobody wants that. Committees are truly excellent way of never achieving anything.
HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
PS Committees archive nothing is actually false statement. Committees are responsible for every regulatory framework you have ever used. And even when you don’t know it. You use them every minute of your life.
They are just slow. And even that can be resolved with. A regulatory framework.
In theory (and it’s still to be agreed to formally).your party will expect members to vote on overall policy at conference each autumn. That vote will happen every autumn. The conference pre election it will form the manifesto. As it dose for every party in the UK. All that is different is who get to vote on what.
MP will be selected by constituency sub parties. As Labour claims to do. Your party will just not allow the leadership of the party to parachute potential support into safe seats. The local party will have full control over candidates.
Once an MP is elected. It works as any other party. That MP vote in parliament based on consultancy needs. The leader is selected by members not MPs (or MPs controling the choice members can make)
The big differences are in the ability for the leadership to protect MP when they fail a constituency party. It won’t exist. Next election that local party can replace them before the election. Preventing Top down control of the parties long term political agenda. Instead replace with democratic control from active membership.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
PS Committees archive nothing is actually false statement.
I didn’t say that. We’re not talking about committees of elected individuals we’re talking about committees random people.
HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
You don’t want it. You are not everybody. More then 800k people have signed to support the idea of the party.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
This what I mean about Corbyn is not a good politician. He’s bad at his actual job.
To be good in politics you have to be good at sales, and rule one of sales is make it possible for people to Google your product. Give it a name that is easy to remember and easy to spell. I’ve seen lots of bad product names, this is the first time I’ve ever seen someone trying to launch a product, (because that is essentially what a political party is) without a name at all.
HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Yes he sold left wing labour to more voters then Starmer both in number and %. More voters then any leader post Blair.
While Starmer lost votes in the last election and only won because the Tories lost more.
Corbyn sold his policies not only to more voters then Starmer ever did. He had the largest membership join the party of any political party in history.
The argument he fails to sell is Just an outright false one. Invented by the right of labour to justify their attacks etc.
Also he is not actually the leader of YourParty.uk No one is. That is a membership decision. He has just agreed to stand.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
As reform has demonstrated membership doesn’t equal votes. A lot of votes will simply be to try and get labour to wake up and realise people unhappy with them.
I really hope the name your party doesn’t stick because it’s terrible. I get what they’re going for with the name but it just doesn’t track.
HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Polling indicated 15%. But that’s one poll and far to early to be more then interesting. But it is interesting.
More so is how much they inspire the young under 35s are polling at nearly 50%. Add that to that is also the voters Labour under Corbyn got to turn out in far higher numbers then normal. (Remembering he actually had way higher vote numbers then Starmer. Even in 2019.
And well yes it’s just interesting at this point but it is promising for a new direction of politics.
Name wise. I agree but your party was always planned as a te,p name. To make a point about it being a community party rather then the much more top down labour is. Corbyn did try to make Labour less top down. As did Mlliband sp? Starmer reset it all and increased leadership control.
It dose interest me that amounts the membership. A fair for like your Party. Seems to be a Ove hate things. But I’d be surprised if it stays. We will start to see a short list of names around autumn when the vote will happen.