Manufacturers work with each other a LOT. A lot of the japanese makers also own stakes in each others companies or have partnerships setup. It’s the exact opposite with USDM stuff, they just don’t share or collaborate on anything big it seems.
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IllNess@infosec.pub 1 day ago
From the article:
In fact, the company has just begun field testing one application at partner Mazda’s Hiroshima plant.
I wanted to see what their partnership was like so I checked on Wikipedia:
In the past and present, Mazda has been engaged in alliances with other automakers. From 1974 until the late 2000s, Ford was a major shareholder of Mazda. Other partnerships include Toyota, Nissan, Isuzu, Suzuki and Kia.
Wow. I didn’t really expect Mazda to be involved with 6 other car manufacturers.
SupraMario@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
lemming741@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Ford and GMC share several transmission designs
en.wikipedia.org/…/GM–Ford_6-speed_automatic_tran…
en.wikipedia.org/…/Ford–GM_10-speed_automatic_tra…
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_8F_transmission
And sometimes they share by virtue of having the same suppliers
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_6HP_transmission#Applica…
www.koreaherald.com/article/10383874
Founded in 1986, Hanon Systems started off as an auto parts maker and ventured into thermal management systems for electric vehicles in 2015. It currently supplies thermal control solutions to auto giants such as Hyundai Motor Company, Kia, Ford Motor Company and General Motors.
Brembo provides brake systems for everyone. Recaro makes seats for everyone. Only premium models get the branding, but it’s pretty common for Brembo to make the base, performance,and halo trim brakes on a car.
Hell, look at the fitment of these brake pads- the calipers are very similar too because they were all made by PBR
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boonhet@sopuli.xyz 13 hours ago
ZF and Bosch put together make like 90% of any given German car too. Mercedes being the only one with their own transmissions. Even Porsche’s PDK is built by ZF.
And you’ll find both ZF and Bosch stuff on American cars too.
Mpatch@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Yea you will even find zfs in john deere equipment.
SupraMario@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
That’s interesting on the transmission sharing. And yea aftermarket works with anyone willing to take a deal, it’s business. I am surprised though that gm/ford did work together though.
lemming741@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Those brake pads are the same not because they are aftermarket- PBR supplied both systems originally and recycled much of the designs and tooling.
jqubed@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I remember in the ’90s/’00s there were a few Mazda and Ford vehicles that were basically the same, most obviously to me the Ford Ranger and Mazda B-series pickup truck.
grue@lemmy.world 1 day ago
IIRC, the Mazda3 was based on the same platform as the European version of the Ford Focus
WindyRebel@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Yes, and the Mazda6 and Mustang shared a platform.
lemming741@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
They were both assembled in Flat Rock at the same time, but the Mazda based platform was CD3. That’s the Fusion and Edge.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 17 hours ago
at that time, Ford owned 1/3 of Mazda. They divested in 2015.
real_squids@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Fun fact, previous Mazda 2 was sold as a Yaris in the US, then they swapped and the new Yaris is sold as a Mazda 2 in some european countries
simulacra_procession@lemmy.today 9 hours ago
As a parts guy, it’s always fun trying to explain why the part I ordered OEM from the warehouse came in a Nissan or Toyota bag instead of GM for ex. A lot of it is that they use the same lists of manufacturers and suppliers for their parts and so it’s often just cheaper to use an existing design for a seemingly insignificant part that is already in production. Think little bushings and things like relays. Ofc things go bad and when they do it’s not clear to the consumer why they’re being sold “this cheap Chinese crap” instead of their vaunted ‘OEM’ garbage. They just don’t get it.