That sounds like a rational take. I could accept it, for what that’s worth.
I do like to ask if artificial selection is harmful. Is it possible that generations of queens/hives adapt and evolve to conform to human demands while becoming increasingly dependent on human support?
fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
I don’t think so, artificial beehives are barely a protected box with compartments queen bees are put in, but there’s plenty wild bees around there too. The reason I quoted captivity in that comment is that those bees go out as far as several kilometres to gather and polinize the flora around them. They could very much find some tree to use as a beehive and keep going out as much.
The reason against the veganism of honey is that it’s technically not consensual, and that the smoke they are thrown to calm themselves so that the humans can take the combs is mistreatment. I mean, I guess? But that’s such a low bar that I don’t subscribe to that, you do you.
In any case I’m not expert, you should do your research to get the most accurate info.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
it’s an animal product
fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
And humans are animals yet human breast milk is considered vegan. It’s about consent and exploitation tbh.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
the definition from the vegan society makes no mention of consent, only exploitation. the barest definition of exploitation is “use”. wherever you heard breast milk is vegan, it’s not consistent with the vegan society definition.