Comment on LPT: Go get a shot, now.

mmmac@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Jay Bhattacharya, said here that I don’t think anyone disputes that it increases the rate of myocarditis, especially in young men..

  Likely he is referring to this study that:-

  The risk of myocarditis after vaccination is higher in younger men, particularly after a second dose of the mRNA-1273 vaccine

  But this statement does not mean the vaccine is net more harmful. The fact you came away with that impression just shows how easy it is to misrepresent facts.

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• jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The NIH director was appointed by Trump, which came with a pretty strong anti-mask, anti-vaxx, and general ‘covid was a hoax’ sort of baggage, so he is unfortunately not that credible.

  There is a study that correlates to the ages he specifies, but the conclusion is that the risks inflicted by the vaccine were still lower than the risks of COVID itself even for that age group, but no matter how they sliced it the risks either way for the age group was minimal, neither the vaccinne nor COVID were too risky overall. Pre-vaccine chicken pox was deadlier to kids than COVID was to that age group, and we didn’t consider that to be particularly risky, mostly worth vaccinating due to heading off the chances for shingles later.

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  • NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s another one I don’t understand. In my country at least when I grew up (born 2001) most kids didn’t get chickenpox vaccines. I didn’t have one and actually caught the virus. I think I even had a scar from it. I know someone about 4 years younger than me who also is scarred from it. Not sure if they started giving it out now. I certainly hope so.

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    • jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m old enough that the vaccine was unavailable, so I got the illness and at least one scar, but my kid was vaccinated and all my peers’ kids are vaccinated so they just won’t know what it’s like.

      Seems like some countries think it’s better to keep it around to keep previously sickened people exposed to keep their immune system active to mitigate shingles, but seems like the data in the ‘vaccinate most of the kids’ countries have shown that this doesn’t actually matter, so we might see more countries embrace vaccinating against it.

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  • mmmac@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Gotcha thanks for the info, yeah I don’t follow politics too much so was unaware the director was appointed by trump and came in with that baggage.

    Wish Huberman had specified that in the caption

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• thingAmaBob@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I would suggest speaking with a doctor you trust who also knows your medical history, if you are indeed a young man.

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  • mmmac@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Young in spirit not age lol, was just curious

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• FinnFooted@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The vaccine has a risk of causing heart complications. It should be monitored. COVID has a much higher risk of heart complications.

  pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9653149/

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  • jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    In the age group most at risk of COVID-19 vaccine myocarditis (12–29 years), for every 100 000 vaccinated, compared to about four more cases of myocarditis we have 56 fewer hospitalizations, 13.8 admissions to intensive care and 0.6 fewer deaths. Several studies have shown that post vaccine myocarditis/pericarditis are generally short-lasting phenomena with favourable clinically course.

    The paper recognizes a 0.004% increase in mild short term myocarditis, with about a 0.05% decrease in hospitalization, 0.014% decrease in intensive care needs, and a 0.0006% decreased chance of death from COVID.

    Of course, all this suggests that in that age range, it’s messing with all very low percentages, so it’s pretty much a wash whether they vaccinate or not, statistically speaking. But the vaccine risk is not ‘much higher’ and the severity of the risk is generally low, and seemingly still technically lower risk than COVID itself, but the risk for any of it is kind of down in the noise.

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• SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Tldr: us gov is no longer reliable for basically anything good, and can be now considered as explicitly hostile to us all

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• Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  i wouldnt trust info coming from someone like trumps admin, who is stuffed with his lackeys.

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  • frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Gonna be hard for some people to forget that .gov sites are compromised sources now.

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      exactly, i only read the actual peer-review research paper with specific scientific research, to verify the claim of an article.i always try to look for said paper from a stem journal before going on NIH/NCBI.

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• yumpsuit@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Trump’s health department is stacked with people hostile to the idea of public health. The People’s CDC, an anti-COVID advocacy organization, had this to say about NIH Director Bhattacharya in March prior to his confirmation:

  Dr. Jay Bhattacharya is a health economist with a medical degree but no further medical training or practice. He endorsed and promoted mass COVID-19 infections to pursue an impossible to achieve infection-driven herd immunity. His policies such as mass infections relying on natural immunity would have led to even more illness, Long COVID, and deaths across the US. His extraordinarily wrong views on the pandemic include predicting, even late in 2020, that US COVID deaths would not reach 50,000, and assuring Floridians in mid-2021 that enough had been vaccinated – though far more have died since then. Videos from as recent as 2024 continue to show him advocating ineffective treatments for COVID-19 such as ivermectin, opposing layered protections against COVID-19, and belittling the value of important tools such as masking and vaccines.

  Instead of focusing on advancing the medical sciences, Bhattacharya wants to intertwine politics and policies at NIH and prioritize funding based on academic freedom instead of innovative and impactful medical and health sciences research. If confirmed as the director of NIH, he will continue to downplay the seriousness of COVID-19 and potentially other infectious diseases, and steer NIH towards investment in ineffective treatments for diseases such as focusing on seroprevalence studies. Ultimately, this will harm and reverse the already monumental discoveries at NIH. He will likely assist Secretary Kennedy’s current efforts to delay and even prevent the development of effective therapeutics for infectious diseases, including COVID-19 – and for Long COVID. Finally, there is no reason to think he will fight this administration’s attacks on NIH staffing and cuts in research funding.

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  • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Are they anti-covid advocacy, or anti covid-advocacy? I’m pretty sure it’s the former from context but I’m still kind of unsure.

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    • yumpsuit@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Both, I suppose. They go in on both anti-virus action and opposing pro-infection actors.

      In their words, “The People’s CDC is a coalition of public health practitioners, scientists, healthcare workers, educators, advocates and people from all walks of life working to reduce the harmful impacts of COVID-19.”

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  • mmmac@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ahh there it is, I wasn’t aware of this, thanks!

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