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Enterprise was ridiculously “Tits out for the boys” and it was a really weird direction to go after Voyager. Like Enterprise had some dumb dumb shit, frat boy type stuff.

Characters in their underwear for quarantine, women’s shirts slipping off because they were crawling around in the vent system. Stuff that didn’t make sense and was played for Scooby Doo style laughs.

It’s all part of why it’s bad.

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Lumidaub@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
I feel it necessary to mention that gem of storytelling called “Huh huh huh ur a dude and ur preggers huh huh huh”.

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baines@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
did you somehow forget 7 of 9?

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- DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Whose whole character arc is about the female trauma of losing control of ones body and having it occasionally violated?..
  
  …with a large dose of how to connect with your mother figures, even when one is being a bit of a Borg queen?
  
  No, I didn’t forget, and it’s great that Voyager hit some gender specific trauma stuff consistently with 7 of 9.
  
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  - CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    That may be how it turned out in the end, but that story arc is absolutely not why 7 of 9 was added as a character on the show.
    
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    Corgana@startrek.website ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Some impressive gymnastics going on with the guy you’re replying to…
    
    What I remember people saying about Enterprise at the time was along the lines of “hadn’t they learned their lesson with Voyager?” 7 of 9’s outfit was an embarrassing thing non-trekkies would point to when characterizing Trek fans as “virgin nerds”.
    
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    Nico_198X@europe.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    you and @baines@lemmy.cafe are correct, though i consider that part of the triumph of 7. the writing and acting elevated that character way beyond the box they tried to put her in.
    
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    DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    The question was did I forget about 7 of 9…
    
    …the answer is no, and that Voyager came before Enterprise and wasn’t nearly as sexist. There’s just no two ways around that.
    
    Voyage wins hands down, leaving Enterprise still being written about as a masculine “Boys Club” or frat house version of Star Trek.
    
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  - baines@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    she didn’t need to look like that to carry that message
    
    please don’t pretend the point was sexy first
    
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    Honytawk@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    How many nip slips did 7 of 9 have?
    
    Jeri Ryan is just a good looking actress and spandex are very scifi.
    
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