Human nature is evolutionary.
Never say never.
Comment on what are the grievances with the "male loneliness epidemic"?
zeropointone@lemmy.world 1 day agoI suppose it won’t end until it get normalized to approach cis men the same way it’s normalized in the other situations I talked about.
Never going to happen because of the function of cis men. Not only in society, not only in civilization but for mankind as a whole. It’s about our very human nature.
Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 hours ago
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Evolution is not our friend. Evolution favours reproductive fitness, not happiness. Happiness is just one of many tools in the toolbox for getting us to reproduce.
The current situation with low birth rates due to the availability of contraceptives is a temporary blip. Right now you can witness a wide range of forces arrayed against that status quo. Note that for humans, evolution operates not only at the genetic level but also at the cultural level since parents can pass their culture on to their children.
We’re witnessing a major backlash and reaction against secular liberalism, a return to authoritarianism and a revival of religious membership. Religion has always been one of the most powerful of evolution’s cultural weapons for increasing reproductive fitness.
zeropointone@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Humans will go extinct before they can become something better.
TheSambassador@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Hey look at this guy! He’s met every human that’s ever existed, ignored all the times that humans have been good and caring, and has decided that we’re completely cooked!
But for real, I get that misanthropes are “in” right now, but if you look for the helpers, you will generally find them. Most people in the world are not out to cause pain - actively malicious people are rare. We just focus a shit ton of our attention on them.
zeropointone@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Ah, toxic positivity and argumentum ad hominem!
squaresinger@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
No, that’s not it. You are seeing your experience (and the experience of people around you, all living in the same society at the same time) and extrapolate that to the “very human nature”.
Just go back 50 years and you have all these structures making it easier for men to keep contact. You had fraternities, churches, unions, clubs, associations and so on, all designed to pick up young men, give them structure, give them contacts and help them being part of something bigger. All that failed some time in the 70s or 80s with the individualism movement that valued individualism over every kind of group.
If you go back even further, social structures were even stronger, with even things like arranged marriage being commonplace in many societies. In societies where that was common, there was no expectation at all that a young cis man would have to approach women at all.
Don’t extrapolate your experience to all of human-kind. It is almost never correct.
zeropointone@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Not men in general, only certain men (See survivorship bias).
squaresinger@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Certain = most. And you might have misunderstood what survivorship bias means.
zeropointone@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Facepalm