Was there are brand/seer rating restriction with the GHGrant? I just applied and will be going this route, but I don’t want to be paying $15000 for a specific brand or something if I can get similiar equipment that might not be on a list.
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CountVon@sh.itjust.works 9 months agoa journalist saying that a COP above 1 means the heat pump “creates energy” In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!
But what’s great is that this COP of 2, while bad, is not catastrophic. That’s still in territory where gas boilers are more cost efficient that a heat pump, but unless you are living in a place that is consistently under -10C for several months, then a heat pump has overall lower running costs than a gas boiler. And you are starting to hit pretty northern territories with this.
I actually have a hybrid furnace/heat pump system, and I live in southern Ontario, Canada. The furnace is the auxiliary heat source and it only kicks in when the outdoor temp is below -6C. I’ve only had this system through one winter so far, but I think I could count the number of days the furnace ran without running out of fingers. My electricity bill went up some of course, but my winter gas bill went down a lot.
ikidd@lemmy.world 9 months ago
CountVon@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Was there any specifig brand/seer rating restriction with the GHGrant?
It’s more complicated than that. The major components of the system all have to be qualified for the rebate, down to the component model numbers. There’s a lookup tool to see which model numbers qualify. For a hybrid setup like mine, there are three parts:
- Outside model number: this is the actual heat pump component that gets installed outside
- Inside model number: this is the condenser coil that gets installed on top of the furnace
- Furnace model number: this is the model number of the furnace itself
A ductless system would only have two part numbers involved, the outside heat pump unit and the inside wall unit. No furnace for a ductless system of course.
Every HVAC company I talked to was pretty knowledgeable about the GH program, so if you tell them you’re an applicant for the program then they should put together a quote that qualifies. Multiple HVAC reps advised me to make sure that all rebate-covered part numbers were listed clearly on the invoice. Apparently if that info is missing it can derail the rebate until the invoice is updated with full info.
ikidd@lemmy.world 9 months ago
That’s a useful tool, thanks for linking that. How much did your hybrid system end up costing?
CountVon@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
The total install was $12k. I also did another 1k in retrofits under the Greener Homes program, but I did the Greener Homes loan as well. I had to outlay the $13k up front, but then I got all of that back in a 10-year, 0% interest loan, plus $5600 in rebates on top ($5k for the heat pump, $600 for the furnace). The loan processing company debits my account $110 a month, which is low enough that it doesn’t really sting.
I debated doing solar as well, since the Greener Homes loan goes up to $40k. Solar would gave easily soaked up the remaining $25k available in the loan. My roof isn’t ideal for solar though, and I didn’t want to triple the loan’s monthly payments for a solar install that wouldn’t have paid for itself over time.
CoolMatt@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I’m a 4th year AC/R mechanic born and raise in Southern Ontario, currently in BC.
You mebtioned your hydro was up but gas was down. Out of curiosity, can you tell me how your total cost of heating changed before/after your first winter with your heatpump? Did you end up saving money?