“I paid for it” isn’t an excuse to do whatever you want.
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Nima@leminal.space 2 days ago
this entire thing reads like a fantasy. or some reddit thread where “everyone clapped” to me.
if I was told by a professor on the first day of class which I paid for that I wasn’t allowed to use my own note taking method I had been using for decades, I’d just say “No.” and if pressed further, I’d take it as high as I needed to. or get a full refund for the class and find another.
this isn’t an elementary school. these aren’t children. these are adults.
jfrnz@lemmy.world 1 day ago
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Why wouldn’t it? If you’re not bothering others, you should be free to piss your money away.
jfrnz@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Because your enrollment in a class is not without consequence. If you are doing poorly due to being distracted by your phone, you are creating harm for other students and the lecturer/professor. Thinking that you are free to behave however you wish just because you are the customer is an extremely consumer-minded Karen-esque mindset.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
How are you harming the other people in the class? I’m assuming here that you’re being reasonably discrete, have the volume off (or have ear buds in), etc. You not paying attention doesn’t really harm anyone else.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Did you read anything past the first paragraph?
Nima@leminal.space 1 day ago
read the entire article yesterday, yes. how can i help?
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Yeah, your comment doesn’t make any sense. You said that the whole thing reads like a fantasy when he backs it up with studies.
Nima@leminal.space 1 day ago
no I meant the expectation that people will just comply without complaint. especially if its not been stated otherwise in the lesson plan or syllabus.
this guy makes it seem like he magically was able to charm people into not using their laptops. and then wrote praises to him for such a thing, and quite frankly I’m certain all of that is embellishment.
I’m all for being more productive in classrooms, but banning note taking methods that quite a few people rely on is just silly.
if people want to join classes where note taking is analog only, that’s great and I encourage it. but let me know its that way ahead of time so I don’t waste my time having to get a refund for the course.
sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
Depends on the class. Pretty unreasonable in a 200+ lecture hall, but a respected professor setting up a small seminar like this to remove distractions sounds like a fair prerogative to create an environment conducive to learning.
Ofc if a student asked for a reasonable accommodation that’s probably chill too.