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• Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Lemmy moment

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• Nima@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  In EU they sell well. not in the US, however.

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  • ramble81@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yeah but the US isn’t all that matters. For reference VW group is the largest automaker in the world, so the comment “no one is buying their cars” is very short sighted.

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    • Nima@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      i don’t think its really all that big a deal. nobody said the US is all that matters. guy just said nobody is buying their cars.

      which to him is true. but its been corrected.

      this is just a conversation.

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      • ramble81@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Meant to reply to him, not you. You basically said something similar to me.

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  • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    not in the US, however.

    🤣🤣🤣
    I wonder why that may be. but incidentally Porsche was the most profitable brand in USA before Trumps stupid tariffs, and Porsche is also VW.

    USA can go fuck themselves, they are making themselves irrelevant. Hyundai is also losing profits in USA despite investments:
    reuters.com/…/hyundai-motor-warns-bigger-hit-us-t…

    Hyundai will be fucked over too, it’s just a matter of time. VW decided to scale back in USA, instead of fighting the windmills.

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    • Nima@leminal.space ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      i don’t know anything about it. i just looked up VW and looked to see what countries sales were good and bad.

      “USA can go fuck themselves, they are making themselves irrelevant.”

      i did not want to get into a political shit fight, man. i did a DDG search about sales for a car manufacturer. thats all I did.

      take it fucking easy, damn. =(

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      • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Are you really claiming to be unaware of the shitshow that is USA?
        Why not look at a page like this for example?

        en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_automotive_manufacture…

        Hyundai is doing fine, but they are still below VW.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I wonder why that may be.

      Parts are expensive since everything needs to be imported. This has been true long before Trump started messing with tariffs. Parts are way easier to get and cheaper in the EU.

      Toyota is popular here for the opposite reason: parts are inexpensive and easy to find. They’re also imported, but they’ve done a much better job figuring out their supply chain.

      Porsche is also VW

      Maybe by ownership, but they target a very different demographic and thus are designed very differently.

      Hyundai is also losing profits

      Hyundai is a lot more popular here than VW. Why? They’re cheap and reasonably reliable. VW isn’t as reliable.

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      • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        OK, but still USA is just 1 of the 3 biggest markets in the world, and the one where VW is doing worst.
        All three brands are very reliable, so i bet the margin in that regard isn’t big between them.
        On a global scale VW remains ahead of Hyundai.
        en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_automotive_manufacture…

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      • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Regarding reliability it’s weird Hyundai already has such a good reputation for reliability, because it’s not many years ago that Hyundai was pretty poor quality. Like for instance the Hyundai Sonata was really awful with rust. And the way the car was built was outdated.
        So just a few years ago, there was no comparison that VW and Toyota were vastly superior quality to Hyundai.
        I know they are better today,but still I must admit I’m surprised if they are really better than VW?
        For instance the Hyundai Kona 64 had a total recall on the batteries. That’s an enormous issue to have had.

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