Comment on Why LLMs can't really build software
TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 1 week agoYeah I’ve seen that before and it’s basically what I’m talking about. Again, that’s not “printing a 3D house” as hype would lead one to believe. Is it extruding cement to build the walls around very carefully placed framing and heavily managed and coordinated by people and finished with plumbing, electrical, etc.
It’s cool that they can bring this huge piece of equipment to extrude cement to form some kind of wall. It’s a neat proof of concept. I personally wouldn’t want to live in a house that looked anything like or was constructed that way. Would you?
it’s basically what I’m talking about
Well, a minute ago you were saying that AI worship is akin to saying
a hammer can build a house
Now you’re saying that a hammer is basically the same thing as a machine that can create a bullying frame unattended? Come on. You have a point to be made here but you’re leaning on the stick a bit too hard.
natecox@programming.dev 1 week ago
I mean, “to 3d print a wall” is a massive, bordering on disingenuous, understatement of what’s happening there. They’re replacing all of the construction work of framing and finishing all of the walls of the house, interior and exterior, plus attaching them and insulating them, with a single step.
My point is if you want to make a good argument against LLMs, your metaphor should not have such an easy argument against it at the ready.
DireTech@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
Did you see another video about this? The one linked only showed the walls and still showed them doing interior framing. Nothing about windows, electrical, plumbing, insulation, etc.
What they showed could speed up construction but there are tons of other steps involved.
I do wonder how sturdy it is since it doesn’t look like rebar or anything else is added.
natecox@programming.dev 1 week ago
I’m not an expert on it, I’ve only watched a few videos on it, but from what I’ve seen they add structural elements between the layers at certain points which act like rebar.
There’s no framing of the walls, but they do set up scaffolds to support overhangs (because you can’t print onto nothing)
scarabic@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I’m with you on this. We can’t just causally brush aside a machine that can create the frame of a house unattended - just because it can’t also do wiring. It was a bad choice of image to use to attack AI. In fact it’s a perfect metaphor for what AI is actually good for: automating certain parts of the work. Yes you still need an electrician to come in, just like you also need a software engineer to wire up the UI code their LLM generated to the back end, etc.
amju_wolf@pawb.social 1 week ago
Huh? They just made the walls. Out of cement.
Making the walls of a house is one of the easiest steps, if not the easiest. And these would still need insulation, electrical, etc. And they look like shit.
poopkins@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Spoken like a person who has never been involved in the construction of a home. It’s effectively doing the job of (poorly) pouring concrete which isn’t the difficult or time consuming part.
natecox@programming.dev 1 week ago
My dude, I worked home renovations for many years. Nice try to discredit me rather than my argument though.
poopkins@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Ah, my apologies. I had interpreted your message to suggest that pouring cement from a robotic arm fully replaced all of the construction work of framing and finishing all of the walls of the house, interior and exterior, plus attaching them and insulating them, with a single step.