Comment on OpenAI will not disclose GPT-5’s energy use. It could be higher than past models

redsunrise@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Ugurcan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m thinking otherwise. I think GPT5 is a much smaller model with some fallback to previous models when needed.

  Since it’s running on the exact same hardware with a mostly similar algorithm, using less energy would directly mean it’s a “less intense” model, which translates into an inferior quality in Americanish.

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  • PostaL@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And they don’t want to disclose the energy efficiency becaaaause … ?

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    • AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Because the AI industry is a bubble that exists to sell more GPUs and drive fossil fuel demand

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    • Hobo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Because, uhhh, whoa what’s that?

      ducks behind the podium

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  • RobotZap10000@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They probably wouldn’t really care how efficient it is, but they certainly would care that the costs are low.

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    • Ugurcan@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m almost sure they’re keeping that for the Earnings call.

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      • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Do they do earnings calls? They’re not public.

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  • Sl00k@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It also has a very flexible “thinking” nature, which means far far less tokens spent on most peoples responses.

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• ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I get the distinct impression that most of the focus for GPT5 was making it easier to divert their overflowing volume of queries to less expensive routes.

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• morrowind@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s cheaper though, so very likely it’s more efficient somehow.

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  • SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I believe in verifiable statements and so far,with few exceptions, I saw nothing. We are now speculating on magical numbers that we can’t see, but we know that ai is demanding and we know that even small models are not free. The only accessible data come from mistral, most other ai devs are not exactly happy to share the inner workings of their tools. Even than, mistral didn’t release all their data, even if they did it would only apply to mistral 7b and above, not to chatgpt.

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    • Sl00k@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The only accessible data come from mistral, most other ai devs are not exactly happy to share the inner workings of their tools. Important to point out this is really only valid towards Western AI companies. Chinese AI models have mostly been open source with open papers.

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• T156@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Unless it wasn’t as low as they wanted it. It’s at least cheap enough to run that they can afford to drop the pricing on the API compared to their older models.

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• thatcrow@ttrpg.network ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It warms me heart to see ya’ll finally tune-in to the scumbag tactics our abusers constantly employ.

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