came here to say just this, just seeing a feed of your childs interactions at another space is fucking weird. Why goto this logging level? Isnt it just good enough of, yeah they napped well today, and they hit there head, it scared them but we got them calmed and an ice pack just in case.
I feel like this is what helicopter parenting but they have to work so this is what they want and they need to calm down, they dont even monitor the indoor air at this level and that has been shown to be a big contributor of poor mental performance then just being at day care with sun and playing with others.
We log this information for a whole host of reasons. Many parents sadly don't get the chance to speak to an educator in depth to discuss their kids day, tracking medical needs, etc. A lot of parents don't even look at this, but it's useful to have if it's ever needed.
My only complaint, and this extends to all the genuinely important paper work we have to do is that we never get enough time to be off floor to do it.
SOOO if the educator was, I dont know, forced to talk to them at pick up over the things of the day they could be more looped in to what the parents want and maybe better understand the groups role and abilities for their child. No you are right, this is better.
I also think it’s dystopian but it is quite helpful information to know when they were fed and/or napped. If you pick up your child and they are unusually hungry or tired, etc it can be helpful. I doubt the caretakers have time to talk to each parent or they change shifts. Paper forms are popular at less fancy places
Let’s not put the blame only on the parents. Anyone who has spent more than 30 seconds working for a corp would understand that taking credit for work does not mean the work got done.
Assuming the diapers aren’t tracked by barcode and there isn’t an independent inspector validating each operation, I would be MORE wary about my kid being well taken care of at a place that measures and tracks work this way. Especially since the types of management that would think this was a good idea are also the type to not understand how work actually gets done and drives to making the metrics look good at the expense of actually caring for human children.
Have you ever actually been to a daycare as an adult?
They’re not tracking timestamps by hand, they’re going up to a tablet, tapping baby name and then tapping diaper/wet or started nap.
Having a sense of how often a kid is eating, sleeping and going to the bathroom is really important because those are health indicators and they can’t tell you how they feel. The caretakers are going to take notes one way or another and give them to the parents so they can be aware of any trends.
They are also subject to surprise inspections government inspectors to verify that they’re following the various rules.
This is seriously just the standard type of logging that anyone tasked with caring for another person is going to be doing.
Yeah thinking that child raising is just a calculation to be figured out is just not the right way. Yes plan the day, but outside of play,eat,nap,reading time. You shouldnt be like did you log the child having a come apart for just being over stimulated?? Or the odd fight that happened over block that neither child wanted to play with?!
HorreC@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
came here to say just this, just seeing a feed of your childs interactions at another space is fucking weird. Why goto this logging level? Isnt it just good enough of, yeah they napped well today, and they hit there head, it scared them but we got them calmed and an ice pack just in case.
I feel like this is what helicopter parenting but they have to work so this is what they want and they need to calm down, they dont even monitor the indoor air at this level and that has been shown to be a big contributor of poor mental performance then just being at day care with sun and playing with others.
Quokka@quokk.au 3 weeks ago
We log this information for a whole host of reasons. Many parents sadly don't get the chance to speak to an educator in depth to discuss their kids day, tracking medical needs, etc. A lot of parents don't even look at this, but it's useful to have if it's ever needed.
My only complaint, and this extends to all the genuinely important paper work we have to do is that we never get enough time to be off floor to do it.
HorreC@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
SOOO if the educator was, I dont know, forced to talk to them at pick up over the things of the day they could be more looped in to what the parents want and maybe better understand the groups role and abilities for their child. No you are right, this is better.
miked@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Lots of parents don’t care.
Ledivin@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And just to be clear, you believe that this would take less time away from the other children?
Ledivin@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Agreed on the diaper change one, but the first half is literally what you said with a timestamp.
HorreC@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
yeah but you are pulling their attention for that, logging that is time they are not dealing with children.
Ledivin@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
…do you think they aren’t dealing with other children during pickups?
plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
How long do you think it takes to log? That would take maybe 5 seconds max unless the ui is horrendous.
howrar@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
They’re spending that time doing diaper changes. They’re not attending to the other kids regardless.
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Have you had kids? Did you attend any of their doctor appointments?
Knowing how often their diaper is changed is medical information the doctors will ask.
happydoors@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I also think it’s dystopian but it is quite helpful information to know when they were fed and/or napped. If you pick up your child and they are unusually hungry or tired, etc it can be helpful. I doubt the caretakers have time to talk to each parent or they change shifts. Paper forms are popular at less fancy places
laranis@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Let’s not put the blame only on the parents. Anyone who has spent more than 30 seconds working for a corp would understand that taking credit for work does not mean the work got done.
Assuming the diapers aren’t tracked by barcode and there isn’t an independent inspector validating each operation, I would be MORE wary about my kid being well taken care of at a place that measures and tracks work this way. Especially since the types of management that would think this was a good idea are also the type to not understand how work actually gets done and drives to making the metrics look good at the expense of actually caring for human children.
ricecake@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Have you ever actually been to a daycare as an adult?
They’re not tracking timestamps by hand, they’re going up to a tablet, tapping baby name and then tapping diaper/wet or started nap.
Having a sense of how often a kid is eating, sleeping and going to the bathroom is really important because those are health indicators and they can’t tell you how they feel. The caretakers are going to take notes one way or another and give them to the parents so they can be aware of any trends.
They are also subject to surprise inspections government inspectors to verify that they’re following the various rules.
This is seriously just the standard type of logging that anyone tasked with caring for another person is going to be doing.
HorreC@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah thinking that child raising is just a calculation to be figured out is just not the right way. Yes plan the day, but outside of play,eat,nap,reading time. You shouldnt be like did you log the child having a come apart for just being over stimulated?? Or the odd fight that happened over block that neither child wanted to play with?!