Comment on Open source community figures out problems with performance in Starfield

• Kbin_space_program@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Hey now. Morrowind was beautifully written.
  Then by Oblivion they started cheapened out and used AI to start generating the map and dungeons.

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  • dojan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There’s a lot of interesting world building and history to draw upon, it’s just a shame Bethesda doesn’t do that.

    You’re never really presented with moral choices. The story never really has you think about things. There’s a tonne of lore books and tapes and what have yous that spill a rich tapestry of stories at you, but you’re never really shown any of it. I’ve had fun with Oblivion, Fallout 3, and Skyrim, and to a lesser extent Fallout 4, but at this point I’m kind of tired of it. They’re all the same game. They have the same floaty combat. The same lacklustre storytelling. The same awkward “talk at you” conversations.

    Been there, done that.

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  • Dangdoggo@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Oblivion being developed with AI driven layouts is a hilarious supposition. It was 2002 dawg.

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    • Justdaveisfine@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Oblivion was 2006, Morrowind was 2002.

      Regardless, your point still stands.

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      • Kbin_space_program@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        No it doesn't.

        Morrowind's entire map was hand made. All of its quests were hand made.

        Starting with Oblivion, they moved to make most of the map and quests automatically with minimal human intervention.

        To the point that they admitted it was too much for the tech at the time and actually hurt the gameplay, and pulled back for Skyrim, using a mix of computer made and human made content, adding in the radiant quest system in an attempt.to make the gameplay "endless".

        The modern thing we call AI is just the chatbots from a decade prior with improved processing power and vastly larger data sets to work with. The tech in those chatbots had been working in various pieces for a decade before that.

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• Dangdoggo@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yeah when people tell me that Fallout or Skyrim are "well written" I know that they don't read.

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• masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  So many PS5 owners in the comments today

  I’m gonna go back to enjoying Starfield

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  • dojan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m not sure what this means. Is the game not on PS5?

    You’re absolutely free to enjoy the game. Like I mentioned in the comments, Bethesda’s game is like instant ramen. It can definitely be delicious and enjoyable, but it’s not good/healthy food.

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    • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Lmao, bruh you haven’t played the game … slow it down on the haterade, it’s not good for ya

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  • BruceTwarzen@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Bye, go collect your trinkets

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    • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Thanks for admitting you’re just a butt hurt hater

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• ramirezmike@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  what does this even mean? “sure they’re fun” and also “not particularly good by any measure” are conflicting statements

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  • Kbin_space_program@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    E.G. Fallout 4 is fantastic exploration.

    It's best gameplay is when your ignore the plot entirely and create your own story.

    Same with Skyrim, Fallout 3 and Oblivion.

    The actual main plots are simplistic, boring and oddly quick. Weirdly, each of the games has an expansion that has a well done quest line, so its not that they can't do it, they choose to not do it.

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  • dojan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Fast food can be delicious and filling, but it’s not good food.

    Bethesda makes the game equivalent to fast food. Specifically instant ramen. You can tweak instant ramen, add veggies, eggs, meat, seasonings, etc. and transform it into something new. It’s still instant ramen, but it’s different.

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    • ramirezmike@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Fast food can be delicious and filling, but it’s not good food.

      this is a completely different argument. Fast food is “good by any measure” because it’s good by the measure of delicious and of filling. It doesn’t make sense to complement something and then say it’s not good in any aspect.

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  • Arcane_Trixster@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Biodome with Pauly Shore is one of my favorite movies. I have fun every time i watch it. It’s not a “good” movie.

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    • ramirezmike@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      isn’t it “good” by the measure of it being your favorite?

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    • Neato@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I would like to add Hook to this list. I was flabbergasted when, as an adult, found out it was poorly received. Then I rewatched it as an adult and was forced to agree. Still one of my favorites.

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• Montagge@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Better than Larian and Fromsoft by a country mile

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