Comment on Reddit will block the Internet Archive
tal@lemmy.today 3 days ago
Given that the Internet Archive is the de facto standard way to cite material as seen on a given date — they’re a trustworthy party that will probably persist for a long time — that’s going to make it harder to cite content on Reddit.
Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 days ago
Damn, guess if you want reddit data to train your AI that you’ll need to pay Spez for access.
tal@lemmy.today 3 days ago
It’s important for people writing papers and such who need to cite material.
I wonder if there’s some way to use the TLS certificate to bootstrap a cryptographically-signed copy of a webpage with timestamp that someone could later validate as having been downloaded on that date. I don’t know if existing TLS libraries are capable of that. Like, Web browser menu option “Store cryptographically-signed webpage”. Absent a later certificate compromise, I’d think that that’d at least provide people a way to credibly say “this is really what was on that webpage on August 15th, 2026”.
TheNamlessGuy@lemmy.world 3 days ago
tal@lemmy.today 3 days ago
Unfortunately, it’ll be more than that, as that’ll be saving the plaintext files transferred internal to the TLS connection. The information that would need to be saved will normally just be thrown out, as it’ll be the TLS connection itself.
On second thought, though, I don’t think that it’d be viable, since the way that something like this normally works is to just use (slow) public key encryption to transfer a symmetric session key and to then use (fast) symmetric encryption on the bulk data, and once you have a copy of the session key, you could forge whatever you want with it. This would only work if you were using asymmetric encryption to encrypt the data in the connection.
kagis
www.cloudflare.com/…/what-is-a-session-key/
Yeah. Oh, well. It was a happy thought for a moment.
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
Don’t forget, Reddit is legally allowed to train on your content, but not the other way around. It’s consistent with US law, where corporate tax is half of income tax.