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• Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Are you actually comparing climate change to animal abuse? Lol

  Holy SHIT the reading comprehension in this thread is subzero. I wasn’t COMPARING.

  I was saying that HUMANS will ignore the reality in front of them if it means they can uphold their materialistic desires and wants. HUMANS will ignore climate change, genocide, animal abuse and slaughter, homelessness, whatever you want to put here. Many Western countries into today’s age are individualistic and selfish.

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  • stratoscaster@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    People aren’t ignoring climate change though, and I would generally think that’s because it’s an existential threat. You’re comparing apples and oranges.

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    • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Tell that to the people that voted in far-Right politicians in many of the Western countries in the last few years. Recognizing climate change, or animals rights for that matter, is not a value the Right holds.

      You’re comparing apples and oranges.

      Yes, once again you’re IGNORING the reason why I brought up climate change in this context. Why are deliberately misreading my arguments? Makes you seem disingenuous and acting in bad faith.

      Our response to climate change will mean we need to change how we power our lives. People in Western countries by and large don’t want to change or be forced to adopt different habits. They want their desires met, whether that means gassing up their cars faster than it takes for EVs to charge, taking flights when rail or road based transit would work, or using more and more Artificial Intelligence to do things for them that they have the ability to do already (driving up grid costs exponentially). When talking about consumption of these things in the economy, trends don’t show decreasing consumption. More people on the planet use more, and this is not to even begin talking about phenomena like the Jevons paradox.

      With animals rights, we’re now talking about taking meat, pork, chicken, lamb, fish, etc. off the menu. New alternatives for dishes will need to be found, or existing dishes will need to be converted to use non-animal plant-based foods. People will need to change their habits if alternatives aren’t found, which is the less preferable option. Once again, humans on the whole don’t like change, so there will be a resistance here to changing diets. People will find all the excuses in the world to fend off change.

      The behavioral antics humans display in the face of climate change and animal rights, or better put in the face of people’s habits and lifestyles changing as a result of climate change and animal rights (if the latter is ever possible), are the same. The CAUSES that ELICIT the behaviors can be different.

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