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occultist8128@infosec.pub 5 days agoYes and it’s wrong either. Now most people here are also falling in the same hole. I’m here not to promote/support/standing with LLM or Gen-AI, I want to correct what is wrong. You can hate something but please, be objective
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
Language is descriptive not prescriptive.
If people use the term “AI” to refer to LLMs, then it’s correct by definition.
sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
Not really, since “AI” is a pre-existing and MUCH more general term which has been intentionally commandeered by bad actors to mean a particular type of AI.
AI remains a broader field of study.
occultist8128@infosec.pub 4 days ago
I completely agree. Using AI to refer specifically to LLMs does reflect the influence of marketing from companies that may not fully represent the broader field of artificial intelligence. Sounds ironic to those who oppose LLM usage might end up sounding like the very bad actors they criticize if they also use the same misleading terms.
sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
This hype cycle is insane, and the gross psychology of the hype obscures the real usefulness of LLMs.
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
I don’t get to decide if the marketing terms used by the companies I hate end up becoming the common terms.
If I stubbornly refuse to use the common terms and instead only use the technical terms, then I’m only limiting the reach of my message.
OpenAI marketing has successfully made LLM one of the definitions of the term AI, and the most common term used to refer to the tech, in public spaces.
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
It doesn’t matter what you want, I’m just describing how language works.
If everyone says a word means a thing, then it means that thing. Words can have multiple meanings.
sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
AI remains a broader field of study, an active field of study which tons of people are invested in, and they use AI to refer to the broader field of study in which they’re professionally invested.
No you’re not. And you’re not as smart as you think you are.
It’s not literally everybody, and you know it, and you also know that LLMs are not the entire actual category of AI.
occultist8128@infosec.pub 5 days ago
It’s partially correct but AI don’t always mean it’s LLM. Etymology is important here. Don’t normalize illiteracy.
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
This is how etymology works.
Do you think all the words we use today meant exactly the same thing 300 years ago?
No, people used it “incorrectly” and that usage gains popularity, and that makes it correct.
What you call illiteracy is literally how etymology works.
occultist8128@infosec.pub 5 days ago
Just to clarify, do you personally agree that LLMs are a subset of AI, with AI being the broader category that includes other technologies beyond LLMs?
I come from a technical background and have worked in AI to help people and small businesses whether it’s for farming, business decisions, and more. I can’t agree with the view that AI is inherently bad; it’s a valuable tool for many. What’s causing confusion is that ‘AI’ is often used to mean LLMs, which is inaccurate from a technical perspective. My goal is simply to encourage precise language use to avoid misunderstandings. People often misuse words in ways that stray far from their original etymology. For example, in Indonesia, we use the word ‘literally’ as it’s meant — in a literal sense, not figuratively, as it’s often misused in English nowadays. The word ‘literally’ in Indonesian would be translated as ‘secara harfiah,’ and when used, it means exactly as stated. Just like ‘literally,’ words should stay connected to their roots, whether Latin, Greek, or otherwise, as their original meanings give them their true value and purpose.
sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
If people use [slur] to refer to [demographic] that does not make it correct by definition.
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
Linguistically correct, and morally correct, are not the same thing.
sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
So are you saying that a slur (for Black people, for example) is linguistically “correct by definition” ? And it actually describes members of the demographic?