Comment on The proletarianization of tech workers
Zeth0s@lemmy.world 9 months agoGoogle engineers have capital. Enough to start their start up if needed. They simply decide that living as googler is easier and more convenient
I had spent 6 years fastidiously saving to have 20k in investments when I got hired by Google.
I was laid off in the wave 9 months later.
So no: I didn’t (and don’t) have enough money to just start my own company.
It’s workers of the world unite not workers of the world only allow people who match your purity test. If you’re not with us, you’re part of the problem.
I spent 6 years saving $20,000 in investments
He said without a trace of irony.
Oh man, guy saved 3k a year, so rich /s
I love when you guys tell on yourselves lol
6 years saving 20k is legitimately the “skip lattes and cancel Netflix” levels of saving.
It’s $270 a month extra.
Only saving $270 a month in NYC means 1 month of layoffs wipes out 6 months of saving in rent alone.
If you don’t see the violence inherent in that system then you’re fucking blind.
That took a hella weird twist lol
darq@kbin.social 9 months ago
As long as their livelihood is dependent on labouring, they're working class. You should show some solidarity, rather than trying to divide the working class.
Zeth0s@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Even bourgeois class work. Even aristocrats… CEOs work.
Working is not what identity proletariat.
I show solidarity, I have former colleagues working at google. They have all my solidarity, but they are not proletariat.
An average google engineer have more capital than most CEOs around the world.
They need to unionize, but they are not proletariat. My company is unionized, and we are not proletariat. There are unionized people owning multiple porsches. They are not proletariat. They simply find easier to live out of a good salary instead of the stress of having their own company
darq@kbin.social 9 months ago
I didn't say they didn't work. I said is their livelihood dependant on labouring.
I don't know what you gain out of gatekeeping the working class. The whole invention of the middle class has been a tool by the owning class to separate the working class.
Zeth0s@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I gain nothing other than I prefer politics to be well directed. Unions for tech jobs is clearly needed, and it is fine. As said I work for an unionized company.
Problem of putting together real working class and people like me, or Google engineers that are even in a better position, it’s bad to orient policies that helps the real working class. I want everybody to enjoy the privileges of mine and google engineers. Putting as in the same bucket as deliveroo drivers is not good for society. As society, we need to really works on the struggle of real proletariat. As tech workers we are far from the priority. Tech workers need to unionize, yes, but they are not proletariat.
MikuNPC@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Working at Google is not what it used to be 20 years ago. Not only would an average CEO be better off but there are plenty of other tech companies better to work at as well. Google engineers are salary workers not much different than any other
Zeth0s@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Those I know drive tesla and porsche, spend their long holidays traveling the world, and have higher entry salaries than management in banks, with larger bonuses.
But apparently you guys know different engineers that struggle to survive… Fine with that. I might know only the lucky one.
Otherwise we are all proletariat. Which is a news for me. I can finally complain with my “real proletarian” friends that we share the struggle, although we definitely don’t.
Anyway, I will stop arguing. Apparently labeling google engineers as proletariat is an important topic in Lemmy, that users do with extra passion