Comment on YSK: US Homeland Secretary Kristi Noem publically bragged about killing her puppy

• aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  are you aware what happens in the animal agriculture industry?

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  • Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You support the Trump administration?

    Because when this shit comes up and you do your best to shift the focus, that’s one of two conclusions I can come to.

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  • Boddhisatva@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Sadly, I am. There are laws about how the animals can be put down and though they are not what I would want them to be, they do at least somewhat limit the cruelty inherent in the process.

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    • OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      How they’re “put down” (that’s a very kind euphemism) is only part of the problem. It’s how they’re forced to live

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      That’s their entire life.

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      • Boddhisatva@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Right, so it doesn’t matter what Noem did, because there is already so much cruelty out there? Why are people defending her cruelty by pointing out the existence of institutional cruelty? They are both bad. One does not refute the other.

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      • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        So theyre forced to live just like the people Noem is kidnapping via ICE?

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    • aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      i feel like you’re a tad misinformed. They are super cruel to the animals. They split families up, they kill animals when they’re still children. They castrate pigs without anaesthetic. They cut off the beaks of chickens so they don’t peck each other. How is that not cruel beyond cruel?

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      • Boddhisatva@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        So because there are institutional scale cruelties like this, then it doesn’t matter that a person in a position high in the American government is bragging about her personal cruelty to animals? I am simply pointing out her failings in this regard and you are telling me what? It doesn’t matter what she did because there’s already a lot of cruelty out there?

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    • JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Between what the law says and what actually happens, there is a yawning gulf. It’s the same in basically all jurisdictions where there are animal-welfare laws. The meat industry is powerful and consumers are unrelenting in their clamor for cheap meat. With such incentives, the weakest link is always going to be animals, which by definition have no voice.

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