why isnt there ever punishment for the businesses hiring illegal migrants and why are random low skill employers like restaurants allowed to get away with legally hiring foreign labor when there are people able and willing to fill those vacancies?
How is there NOT an incentive for employers to game the system by publishint job listings for random positions with inflated requirements and undervalued compensation so nobody who could otherwise do the job at the price listed and be hired domestically wouldnt or couldnt apply and they simply wail that nobody wants to work
The people that immigrate work. They have labor value. They’re consumers too, they’re literally just people like you and me - and zooming out to macro economics that’s all we are. The human widgets in the machine.
Trying to blame immigrants for the ills of society is a fool’s errand.
Maybe instead of pumping up shareholder value in stocks, most of which are not owned or shared by the actual labor, there could be an increase of wages and benefits through taxation. Hell stocks could be given to the people who are making that revenue for the company and not to just like the pockets of the investor class who are literally making money by simply having it.
I don’t think people prefer to be exploited for their labor but when the USD goes farther than your local currency and you’re already in bad enough straights it is worth the hardship for those folks.
Also allof this is ignoring one very obvious fact. IT IS ILLEGAL TO HIRE UNDOCUMENTED MIGRANT WORKERS. Maybe … just maybe if the companies and farm owners followed the law they claim to care so much about the demand and the benefit of “illegal” immigration would cease to exist.
Its not about blame. Its about pointing out that all this value they produce is basically absorbed only by the businesses that illegally or unethically employ them and the government that collects increased revenues with fewer obligations that they would be required from regular citizens and also a reduced incentive to solve actual domestic problems rather than let those pumped up government and business revenues/profits to make them look good rather than attenuate that with the actual real cost to citizens who bear the brunt of all of it.
cheese_greater@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
If the labor werent cheaply and alternatively available, they would have less leverage to do that
masterofn001@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Why all the layoffs then?
Why can’t you afford eggs?
Why is healthcare the number 1 cause of bankruptcy?
Why are your wages stagnant?
Why have billionaires seen a 2 TRILLION $ increase?
Immigrants, of course!
cheese_greater@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
why isnt there ever punishment for the businesses hiring illegal migrants and why are random low skill employers like restaurants allowed to get away with legally hiring foreign labor when there are people able and willing to fill those vacancies?
How is there NOT an incentive for employers to game the system by publishint job listings for random positions with inflated requirements and undervalued compensation so nobody who could otherwise do the job at the price listed and be hired domestically wouldnt or couldnt apply and they simply wail that nobody wants to work
Maeve@kbin.earth 3 weeks ago
Oh boy. This explains "what about vape?"
LePoisson@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s just not how the economy works.
The people that immigrate work. They have labor value. They’re consumers too, they’re literally just people like you and me - and zooming out to macro economics that’s all we are. The human widgets in the machine.
Trying to blame immigrants for the ills of society is a fool’s errand.
Maybe instead of pumping up shareholder value in stocks, most of which are not owned or shared by the actual labor, there could be an increase of wages and benefits through taxation. Hell stocks could be given to the people who are making that revenue for the company and not to just like the pockets of the investor class who are literally making money by simply having it.
I don’t think people prefer to be exploited for their labor but when the USD goes farther than your local currency and you’re already in bad enough straights it is worth the hardship for those folks.
Also all of this is ignoring one very obvious fact. IT IS ILLEGAL TO HIRE UNDOCUMENTED MIGRANT WORKERS. Maybe … just maybe if the companies and farm owners followed the law they claim to care so much about the demand and the benefit of “illegal” immigration would cease to exist.
cheese_greater@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Its not about blame. Its about pointing out that all this value they produce is basically absorbed only by the businesses that illegally or unethically employ them and the government that collects increased revenues with fewer obligations that they would be required from regular citizens and also a reduced incentive to solve actual domestic problems rather than let those pumped up government and business revenues/profits to make them look good rather than attenuate that with the actual real cost to citizens who bear the brunt of all of it.