Comment on Spotify fans threaten to return to piracy as music streamer introduces new face-scanning age checks in the UK

TwinTitans@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• sad_detective_man@leminal.space ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I know so many people who are so ride-or-die for never having to manage the file space for their own music library and they don’t seem particularly less stressed.

  I think they just cannot live without an algorithm to recommend new music to them

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  • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I think they just cannot live without an algorithm to recommend new music to them

    Oh, piss off. I just want to financially support artists for making something beautiful I enjoy. Streaming is the easiest because of space constraints. I still buy the CDs of my most favourite albums, but I cannot stress enough how great it is to NOT have to rip the MP3s every time, make sure the tags are good, etc.

    It’s convenient.

    If you don’t like Spotify’s new ID check, kill your Spotify account and use an alternative - Tidal and Qobuz are both excellent.

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    • sad_detective_man@leminal.space ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      woah woah woah, chill bro goddamn. let’s sit and think about this. Record labels take pretty much all of the cut for streaming. Here is the chart showing what each service pays artists per song played. I used to think Napster was the best and subscribed to them for years, which is ironic considering their history Image

      obviously the payout is going to vary widely but it’s common knowledge that for even the most played artists, the pay from this avenue sucks. they simply use these services to get their music to potential concert goers since that’s the income that record labels actually let artists keep. vinyls, merch, and usually tickets unless they REALLY get fucked over like child musician groups tend to.

      If You have an interest in discovering just how shady that industry is, you should watch this essay about payola and how it’s literally more profitable for a musician to die than it release a certain number of future albums. I’m going to stick to pirating albums and using my cash to actually see the artists I love

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      • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It’s still giving them SOMETHING, isn’t it?

        Of course I’d prefer to buy directly from the artist (hence: Bandcamp), but that’s not the world we live in. Flat out piracy is just the worst of all the available options.

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    • Mika@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I think if you send like a dollar to everyone on your playlist, it would end up being like 100 times more than they get from the system.

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    • yesukwunt@thelemmy.club ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You’re mostly supporting the industry that told your favorite artists to kill themselves once they’re not profitable anymore. Why do you think they keep blowing thelself up? The music industry is inherently exploitative.

      Not to even mention all the corruption (payolas) going on.

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      • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Why do you think they keep blowing thelself up?

        I have honestly no clue what you mean. Could you explain?

        You’re mostly supporting the industry that encouraged your favorite artists to kill themselves once they’re not profitable anymore

        Which is why I’m actively searching for the best possible options.

        When I learned that Spotify is fleecing artists, I moved to Tidal.

        Then I learned about the French Qobuz, which pays artists even more, and I switched.

        I support artists on Bandcamp. I buy physical CDs and will soon fire up a vinyl collection.

        I’m aware that 100% of the money I spent on art doesn’t go to the artist, but even if it’s 10%, it’s going to be 100% more than if I resorted to piracy.

        Supporting piracy to show corpos the finger is the equivalent of stealing CDs from a music store, because the store price includes the store’s margin, transport costs, manufacturing costs, and only a (relatively) small percentage goes to the artists.

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  • utopiah@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    they just cannot live without an algorithm to recommend new music to them

    They might want to try LMS and its github.com/epoupon/lms?tab=readme-ov-file#music-d…

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  • Electricd@lemmybefree.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    me basically

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  • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    An algorithm for them:

    set rand [clock microseconds]
    set len [mpc_pl_len]
    set to [expr {$rand%$len}]
    mpc_pl_jmp $to
    

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    • sad_detective_man@leminal.space ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      mpc, is that shuffling media player cassic with the system clock? isn’t that what shuffle already does ?

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      • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        mpc as in mpd CLI client, where mpc_pl_len and mpc_pl_jmp procedures are not listed, but just call it with some other Unix commands to get playlist length and jump to a playlist position.

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• ftbd@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Why mp3?

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  • yopyop@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Usually when someone still use mp3s it’s for the ubiquity of the format. Every device that has a USB port handle mp3s. I personally use opus and it’s not common at all.

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    • tiramichu@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It’s really interesting when you think about that.

      In the video world, we’ve had an arms race all throughout the last 25 years for the lowest possible file size at the best possible quality, with new codecs and containers constantly coming in and out of favour. Hardware playback has always been spotty at best, with little guarantee you’ll get a file to play on any device in particular.

      Meanwhile I could rip a CD and put it on even my first-generation MP3 player from the year 1999, and it would work. A blessing we rather take for granted.

      I guess there just hasn’t been sufficient pressure to toss MP3 out completely. From an evolutionary perspective, just like the horseshoe crab, it is “good enough” and so it endures.

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      • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        You just reminded me: A while back there was this slew of articles coming out of the tech press saying MP3 was now dead.

        And why did they say that? Because the last Fraunhofer Patent on an MP3 related invention ran out.

        Instead of reporting the format was now fully free, those idiots thought that meant it was now dead 😂

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      • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Opus is far better, but with MP3’s there’s been plenty of hardware players only working with that format. Also Opus is new, before it was Vorbis which was kinda as good as MP3 but far less popular.

        And yes, MP3 is very “good enough”, like JPEG.

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