Comment on Age Verification Is Coming for the Whole Internet

TommySoda@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  We'll build our own Internet.
  With black jack and...

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  • nymnympseudonym@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    We have already done that. It’s called Dreddit and not even major governments can stop it.

    https://www.torproject.org/

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    • planish@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Is it filled with the type of people that one might wish major governments could stop, though?

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      • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Not much more than the www.

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  • TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    We already have gemini. A text based internet protocol like gopher.

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    • r4venw@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Whats up with gemini lately? Havent seen anything about it since before covid

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  • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Black jack anddddd…

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• hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’m literally going around trying out old school forum sites this week.

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  • Buelldozer@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Why do you assume that the old school forums are going to get exempted? They are going to get on the bus or get run over by it just like everywhere else. Government has already proven that they can, and will, regulate those forums.

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    • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Great question!

      First, that the definition of content that is considered “adult” doesn’t necessarily mean every forum qualifies. Privacyguides.org likely would not. A car forum likely would not. Facebook must comply because links shared can be “harmful” anywhere on the platform. The fractured nature of Web 1.0 is a feature now, not a bug.

      Second, that proxy measures can reasonably work for forums with smart admins. If I register with an email I can show has been in use since 2007, some forums are willing to accept that as enough evidence. I saw an article somewhere I can’t find right now that someone was accepting 5 year old tickets to a concert or something that was an 18+ event. Typically age verification laws are focused on large Web 2.0 platforms and can include lower cost, lower threshold options for sites with a very small number of users.

      Finally, that it might simply take a longer time for anyone to care or even notice some smaller sites. By the time someone comes calling, policies might have already changed several times and reasonable exemptions now mean no work is needed.

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  • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Car forums are still alive and well because they’re a great repository of knowledge. There are plenty of computing forums too still.

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    • Buelldozer@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yep, and every one of them already complies with age verification laws so as new laws are added they’re going to comply with those as well. There are very few web admins / sysops / site operators out there who are willing, or even able, to buck these kinds of national laws.

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  • PushButton@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I am already browsing the “old way”, since the mess with reddit…

    I found out there is a forum for everything. It’s not centralized in one website, but it’s not that different than browsing /r/whatever you know.

    More often than not, the discussions are more intelligent and on point too.

    For my doom-scrolling needs, Lemmy does the job.

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    • phonics@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Lemmy will be pressured into age verification also and most hosts will crumble. $50M per caught infraction is wild.

      We gonna end up going back to libraries. Which actually would be cool as fuck. Like Yentl when all those dudes are hanging out in a big ass room talking philosophy. It’ll re-spark the postal service. Live music will thrive. Coz everyone will be like fuck the internet, we’ll do it live.

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      • Buelldozer@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Many fediverse hosts will make an effort to stay open by shifting their servers to countries that are out of reach of verification and law enforcement but that will only last so long.

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  • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Let us know what you find. I’m ready to go back to the 90s/early 2000s internet. Golden era of the internet.

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• vodka@feddit.org ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Sneakernet is gonna be back with a vengeance

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  • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Among us nerds, I’m sure.

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    • Chivera@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Isn’t that how it started

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