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Mutilation seems to imply more than just violence or killing. For example, Days Gone has a scene very early that involves flaying someone’s skin off, I would imagine that type of stuff would qualify.

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SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Wouldn’t that have artistic value? Since that adds to the story.

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- Khanzarate@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  That’s true but anyone agaimt its inclusion would just say it doesn’t add to the story. “Clearly it detracts from the story, as the player would be distracted by the horrific event instead of enjoying the game” -some hypothetical mastercard Exec, right before fining Valve.
  
  It’s not a court, so there’s no appeal from that, unless there’s an appeal granted by the contract itself.
  
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- lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  That’s the thing, who defines what artistic value is? I’ve seen some pretty creative pornography over the years. Is that artistic value? I’ve seen very creative depictions of violence and uses of profanity too. What about on the other end of the spectrum, Is Tetris have artistic value?
  
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  - Danquebec@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I think pornography is an “art” the same way gastronomy is an “art”. Both serve a simple function: one to arouse you, the other to be enjoyable food to eat.
    
    I think the more general definition of art is something that generates more complex emotions and thoughts.
    
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  - dzsimbo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Tetris is artsy as shit, especially with that kickass score, Korobeiniki.
    
    For a better example, maybe contrast it against the more generic marvel movies.
    
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    lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I was trying to keep it limited to gaming and Tetris was the most basic one that came to mind. How about Pong?
    
    Also not knocking these games at all. Just trying to make a point.
    
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- Rekorse@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  They didnt have to show it so explicitly, although I’m not sure simply implying mutilation would qualify too.
  
  Its hard to say what the right level of shock for that kind of thing is, it probably should just be restricted to adults only.
  
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