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forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Umm. What? I can’t fault your optimism, but… No. Like, really. Not a snowball’s chance in hell levels of nope.

Kids are far more likely to assume a fully enshittified experience is “just how it is”. I don’t see any logical path that would support your predicted outcome. Increasing the barrier to entity isn’t just gonna magically change their minds and make them spontaneously hop the fence. That path is even more of a pain in the ass. , and they were already just using what’s shoved in getting of them. If it’s already not worth their time to do different, why would making it seem even less attractive help?

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sefra1@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I don’t think they are as stupid as you think them.

I mean, back when I was younger I learned pretty much all I know about IT by admining my own computer, and I pretty much did it by trial and error yes. However nowadays kids talk to each other over popular chat applications, eventually one tells another “hey just install this browser/vpn” the same way they install mods for their videogames.

Tho in the end I don’t think they will become techy savy tho, I guess just that tor and VPNs will become commonplace in UK.

Meanwhile the old boomers are the ones who are going to forced to shrug “just how it is”.

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ToastedRavioli@midwest.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Not to mention that the computer literacy of the youngest generation will literally never be on par with the youngest millennials. I started using windows OS at like 4 years old on windows 95. My first computer classes in school started when I was like 6. We had years and years of just typing classes on those dummy keyboards that werent even computers. WPM was an actual marketable skill at that time that they wanted to impart on kids.

Basically younger millennials have been cemented as the most technically literate people alive. Most of the younger generation have the same level of computer literacy as boomers and are even worse than most Gen X. Far less capable than even elder millennials.

Nothing is going to catch up the young adults who grew up as IPad kids, because for those of us a bit older we have been exercising actual computer skills basically since we popped out

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- Stillwater@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Actually, as an elder millennial, I believe we are far more computer literate than young millennials.
  
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  - jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yeah I think the person you are replying to is somewhat confused. As a younger gen x on the cusp, all of my grade school friends (even those who would not later go into tech) knew how to disassemble and reassemble a PC. We had to scrounge for graphics cards, sound cards, hard drives, peripherals, use DOS. Install drivers. Dialed into BBS’s. Pirated software. We built that campy Web 1.0 shit in the 90s.
    
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  - entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    As a 90’s kid, I think we’re roughly on-par.
    
    I grew up with Windows (95, then 98), DOS, MacOS 8, 9, and X, and used several Apple II computers at school. I was able to use dial-up on my own by like 7?
    
    Built my first custom gaming PC at 12 or maybe 13. It ran XP, which needed a bit of tweaking to run some of my old DOS games.
    
    Man, I do not miss dealing with Sound Blaster drivers.
    
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    sparky@lemmy.federate.cc ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The phrase “IRQ in use” is still enough to give me nightmares.
    
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    Stillwater@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Oh boy, sound blaster. As much of a pain getting everything to work back in the day was, I’m also nostalgic for it.
    
    Anyway, generational lines are always blurry. I always find myself identifying with things defined to be part of the generation before or after mine anyway. I would call myself a “90s kid”, being born in the 80s, but I count that as an older millennial.
    
    We got our first family computer when I was in grade school. It didn’t even have Windows, just DOS. So I first learned the command line. When we later got Windows 3.1, we didn’t have a mouse, so I learned to navigate the OS with keyboard only (to this day I have a preference for keyboard navigation). By the time I was in high school I knew how to code, build a computer from parts, etc. And started my life as a pirate with Napster.
    
    My sister is a younger millennial, born in the 90s. By the time she was actively using a computer I think it was probably on XP. She probably wouldn’t know what defragmenting is or how to format a drive. But she didn’t have to learn that stuff.
    
    As a millennial in general it seems we are the only generation who know how computers work as a rule. We had to help our grandparents and parents generation with every technical problem, and figured the kids of the future would surpass us. But now I have play the same tech support role for my kids generation, because they never learned that stuff either.
    
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- Z3k3@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I dont understand your qwerty coment I have never seen a device that could be called a computer that didn’t have one. Unless you go as far back as the “mini computers” and even some of those had them
  
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  - tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I believe that was in relation to phones–they said they never had to use T9 mode on phones that had only numbers, and went straight to qwerty phones.
    
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    Z3k3@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Thanks. I knew i was missing something
    
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then_three_more@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Hormones and porn addiction. You think a 16 year old who’s been watching porn for years is going to give it up over night?

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- OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  That’s a very specific age that might try to seek it out. But what about a 10 year old who never experienced it and grows up thinking that’s just the way it is?
  
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- forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  You’re talking to someone who would steal the sears catalog (like printed catalog - showed up in an actual physical mailbox) and page through the lingerie ads. You think a hormone driven teenager needs Pornhub?
  
  Just saying…
  
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  - then_three_more@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The world has changed. I don’t think the lads mags of old or going to the one corner shop where you knew they weren’t going to bother checking your ID for a top shelf mag is going to cut it with teens who are used to 10 monster cocks gangbang pawg.
    
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    jaybone@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Do they even have porn mags anymore? Seems like you’d have to go to a special collectors shop or something to find them, if they exist.
    
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  - Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    When you’ve tasted wine, would you go back to vinegar though?
    
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    forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Oh, you sweet summer child. ( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
    
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