parpol@programming.dev 3 days ago
Just pointing out the obvious here, but the problem isn’t organizations like Collective Shout. And there has been a rather worrying development of this issue where people seem to focus on these organizations rather than the actual problem.
Payment processing is a utility. Credit card companies should not be allowed to pick and choose who they allow and who they block. That’s the job of the government. Anything illegal can be blocked, but blocking anything legal such as the delisted games, or the Japanese manga sites that visa and MasterCard killed, should count as discriminatory practice and antitrust violation.
Japan is on track to force credit card companies to allow all legal transactions indiscriminately, and we need the same thing to happen in the EU and US. Once we have this fixed, organizations will be forced to instead try to outlaw the games, which is a million times harder.
If we bully organizations like collective shout out of existence, new ones will pop up to take its place, and the cycle repeats, but if we regulate credit card companies, we essentially cure the disease.
noxypaws@pawb.social 3 days ago
Actually insane to say that Collective Shout is blameless. Go look at the vile shit their members are spewing. Not only are they demonstrably culpable for this, they’re also engaging in hate speech and disinformation and targeted harassment.
The payment situation is also to blame.
antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
Twitter is not, as it turns out, the only place where well articulated sentences get misinterpreted.
kautau@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I love the mental gymnastics of saying that you’re a feminist and also anti-abortion. The only way a woman gets pregnant is from sperm. And in 99% of cases, that was through the interaction with a man. And it may have not been consensual.
But either way, now said woman is bound to modify her body and life because of her interaction with a man, rather than being able to make her own choice. She’s “empowered” to be a good little breeder and produce either men or other breeders because apparently that’s what women are good for when you take away their autonomy, which is really what these groups want.
They would build such an amazing society! With so many empowered women! Freed from the shackles of being able to think or decide for themselves, ready to fulfill their ultimate dream of producing offspring, taking care of offspring, and then dying.
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burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 2 days ago
its why they are called radical feminists
kautau@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Except
But by making sure that women carry children to term whether or not they want to, it’s basically male run, they haven’t said anything about male/female equality.
It’s not the right terminology. Radical feminism has its own flaws, but this is Christian fundamentalism, nothing more, no matter how they label it.
Genius@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Nobody said that. Except you, I guess.
xthexder@l.sw0.com 2 days ago
They didn’t say blameless, but they did heavily imply Collective Shout isn’t a problem and that people are worried about the wrong thing. I think Noxy’s interpretation and response that there’s multiple things to blame was pretty reasonable.
DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 days ago
No one is saying they are blameless.
noxypaws@pawb.social 1 day ago
Yes they are. Yes the fuck they absolutely are.